The Brew Cabin

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:34 am**

Hi All

New to paving and this site, but would really appreciate some advice:

I have just purchased:

Raj Blend project pack
1 x 2.4m circle with squaring off kit

I was looking on your site for laying advice which is fine, and I understand your recommended method, but just wanted to clarify if I could use alternative methods?

1.

Can I dry-lay Raj blend on sharp sand (without a bedding mortar) and then point with a wet (but not sloppy) cement mortar mix? (The patio will be retained by the lawn)

2.

Can I do the above but point with sharp sand by brushing in?

3.

I was thinking if I dry-lay, it would be easier as I have not laid a patio before. If the result is not satisfactory, then I would re-lay using a mortar bed.

4.
I need to smash up and remove a concrete path that is about 4" thick but I am worried about damaging pipe work or drains. The concrete is just outside my Kitchen window where the sink, ect drains into

Any advice really appreciated as I am a novice at patio laying.

Cheers
Richy

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:38 pm**

Hi Richy

1. You could dry lay on sand but it wont be very long before the pavers start moving around. If you want the job to last then it needs to be done properly using cement. Also laying on dry sand will render the pointing useless. You are mistaken in your belief that it will be any easier using sand, it wont! If you are not very confident in your ability to do the project why not practice laying a few flags on dry sand so you get the hang of the levels. Once you are then comfortable you can then re-use the sand and do it properly.

2. Pointing by just sweeping in sharp sand is also not adequate. In no time at all there will be weeds growing in the gaps. Also the rain will eventually wash the sand away. See the main site for pointing methods.

3. Not sure how you plan to break the concrete up. The hard way is to use a sledge hammer and heavy bar. The easy way is to hire a small jack hammer from your local tool hire/builders merchants. Just take your time with it and take extra care in any areas you expect to find pipes. (break it up in small pieces in these areas)

Spend a bit more time on the main site and read the laying instructions until you fully understand them. If you dont do the job properly then its not worth doing because it will just cause you problem after problem in the long term

Steve

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:51 pm**

Hi Steve

I really appreciate this advice, especially kind as when I think about it, there is little for you to gain from offering your help and experience to novice strangers like myself!

I guess it's just about lots of research and confidence. I have a week off work to cover about 30 sq m so should be able to take my time!

A mate of mine in the trade reckons that pipes should be buried 40cm down anyway so I shouldn't hit them.

Thanks again.
Rich

Posted: **Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:02 pm**

1 no
2 NO
3 NO!!!!
4 be careful

if your mate is in the "trade"
surely he can help ya?

LLL

The Brew Cabin

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