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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:24 am
by welshcat
just been reading some more posts on here regarding the bedding layer and quite a few seem to say that i'd be better off doing a 6:1 mix as oppossed to a 10:1 mix. also, as i'm laying the slabs on my own and am likely to take a few days to do so, would i be better off using a wetter mix and using the individual bedding method? help please!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:09 pm
by Rich H
For most applications, DIYers will find it much easier to individually bed on a fairly wet mix. Personally I prefer a 6:1 mix for this application.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:41 pm
by welshcat
ok thanks for the advice, sorry if i sound like a useless female - that's cos i am! so, to recap, it's no good me laying the beddiing layer and compacting it with a whacker plate if i'm not able to lay all the slabs on the same day - is that right? i need to do the individual bedding method? when i do it this way, what's the best way of compacting the mix down so that it doesn't move too much?
can i put down a thinner layer of the mix, then whack it, and then put the extra layer for bedding as i go along?
ta very much - again!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:47 pm
by richie_jones
you don`t whack the bedding layer only the subbase. Lay your bedding layer 6-1 wet mix about 20mm to high, lay the individual slab and tap down to your level with a rubber mallet.....
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:58 pm
by welshcat
okey dokey, ta very much. only reason i said about whcking the bedding layer is that i thought it said to do so in the bedding layer section of this site. ok, thanks anyway from a useless but hopefully more clued up female!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:19 pm
by Rich H
Well, there's laying on a screeded bedding course (not layer) and then there's individual bedding. Just follow the section on the main site for individual bedding and you'll do alright.
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:02 pm
by welshcat
yeah, i've been looking at that earlier, thanks very much for the advice! if it looks ok when i've finished i'll try and get the photos on here, if it looks like a pile of pants then i won't! thanks again
Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 8:03 pm
by rimexboy
welshcat wrote:yeah, i've been looking at that earlier, thanks very much for the advice! if it looks ok when i've finished i'll try and get the photos on here, if it looks like a pile of pants then i won't! thanks again
We will await the photos then 
simon
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:13 am
by Chazb
Hi guys. I'm new here and what a great site.
I'm just about to take on my first patio job in the garden. I'm laying 600x600 slabs over the existing concrete slabs which are solid.
After reading the great advice on this site I've decided to lay them on a 10:1 sand cement mix. My question is, does the sand and cement defintely have to be mixed together?
I was thinking of laying a bed on the sand then a thinner layer of the cement on top...would this be ok?
Also, if I lay the mix dry, will there be enough moistre underneath to set the cement off? I thought of laying it dry, then maybe wetting it with watering can just berfore laying each slab. Would this do the job, or am i talking absolute begginers nonsense?
It's a pretty straight forward area of about 14m2 which will only be used by us and the kids for sitting out on.
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated as I'm starting it tomorrow. Thanks a million - Chaz.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:56 am
by seanandruby
Are you taking the piss ??? RTFM.
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:37 am
by lutonlagerlout
Chazb wrote:Hi guys. I'm new here and what a great site.
I'm just about to take on my first patio job in the garden. I'm laying 600x600 slabs over the existing concrete slabs which are solid.
After reading the great advice on this site I've decided to lay them on a 10:1 sand cement mix. My question is, does the sand and cement defintely have to be mixed together?
I was thinking of laying a bed on the sand then a thinner layer of the cement on top...would this be ok?
Also, if I lay the mix dry, will there be enough moistre underneath to set the cement off? I thought of laying it dry, then maybe wetting it with watering can just berfore laying each slab. Would this do the job, or am i talking absolute begginers nonsense?
It's a pretty straight forward area of about 14m2 which will only be used by us and the kids for sitting out on.
Any help and advice will be greatly appreciated as I'm starting it tomorrow. Thanks a million - Chaz.
go read the main website re: patios
then come back suitably chastened and ask some pertinent questions chas
LLL
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:07 am
by jay-Manor Driveways
lol bless him
welshcat how did the patio come out
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:33 pm
by Chazb
Wow!!
Just goes to show how wrong you can be.
I came here thinking I'd get some genuine help and guidance, only to be mocked and laughed at by some over sized ego's that are too far up ther own arse to care when someone needs help.
Thanks for nothing .
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:02 pm
by DNgroundworks
Why should someone have to re-type information when somone else has taken a considerable amount of time in doing so already?
All the info is on the main site
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:17 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Chazb wrote:Wow!!
Just goes to show how wrong you can be.
I came here thinking I'd get some genuine help and guidance, only to be mocked and laughed at by some over sized ego's that are too far up ther own arse to care when someone needs help.
Thanks for nothing .
more or less everything you said chaz is a cardinal sin of paving, the golden rule of most forums is to look, lurk, and learn, before you post anything likely to promote mirth or anger
I have subscribed to a stock market forum for 2 years and am yet to make my first post as i dont feel confident talking in the way that most posters do on that forum==> lot of technical stuff
you will get most of your answers on the main site,then if you have a specific problem come back and ask away
LLL