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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:41 pm
by wez
Firstly, great site Tony. I cannot seem to find a page dealing with my issue, although there is a similar post in the forum it does exactly ressolve my issue either.

I am thinking about constructing a patio (~25m2) at the rear of my garden. I have a concrete path running down the length and across the back of where my patio would lie.

My question is (I bet you've guessed already!), do I need to dig up the concrete or can I take the lazy way out and build the sub-base level up to the path and then lay on top of that.

My logic says if the sub-base is whacked down properly it shouldn't be an issue, but I'm concerned I may make things harder for myself in the long run.

Thanks

Alan

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:49 pm
by wez
Just to clarify patio is for light use and will almost certainly be used for a large shed.

The path is solid with no sign of cracks.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:56 pm
by Rich H
As long as your finished paving height is 150mm below DPC it doesn't matter provided you end up with a firm base to work on.

However, putting a sub-base on top of a concrete path doesn't make sense - just use the bedding course. Otherwise you'll end up with a rigid concrete layer, a granular compacted layer then another rigid layer: the bedding course. Not the end of the world for light use but not ideal either.

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:29 pm
by wez
Thanks for telling me what I wanted to hear Rich. :cool:

Saves me a whole lot of hassle. I'll hopefully get it done this summer, got a fence to put in first so I can level the flower bed before putting in the patio. The neighbours put the fence in (before I moved in) but didn't sink it to the level of my garden! :angry:

No DPC to worry about as it's well away from the house.

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:26 pm
by Tony McC
There *is* a page: in fact, it's a FAQ..... Laying over existing

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:31 pm
by wez
I knew that would happen. :D

Doesn't quite answer my specific question. My main concern was whether it was okay to 'mix' surfaces. All the same I'm not going to argue with the gaffer. :;):

Apprectate Rich's comments, as I mentioned, the pavement (which has been down many years at a guess) shows no cracking and is in excellent condition. I assume it will be fine to pave over.

I want to do the job properly so if it means it needs to come up then so be it. Opinions welcome.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:42 am
by Tony McC
Mix surfaces? Do you mean "mix substrates" in that part of your planned patio will lie over the existing path and part will be over a new sub-base?

If so there's no real problem with that strategy.

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 4:25 pm
by wez
Yes I did mean mix substrates. Thanks for the advice. The more I think about it, it may be worth digging the path up at least it'll give me a 'clean' canvas to work with, and will make future changes to the garden easier.