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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:57 pm
by romfordlandscaper
Hi all.
My question for which i need to reach a fairly urgent conclusion: is it okay to use mortar pointing replacement products, like Rompox, for Crazy Paving?
Also, how much of Rompox Easy (and at what cost) would be likely?
I know it is quite difficult to work out the amount of material needed for pointing crazy paving because of inconsistancies, but the area is around 60 sq.m, pointing is around an inch deep, with fairly wide pointing, and there are quite a fair amount of smaller slabs used as well as larger ones.
Thanks for any help.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:48 pm
by dig dug dan
no
the joints are too wide for the recommended use and besides you will use so much, it will cost a fortune!
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:54 pm
by lutonlagerlout
it would be cheaper buying a bank right now,sand and cement,you will do it in 4 days 
LLL
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:00 am
by GB_Groundworks
my experience of rompox was it good product, but expensive and when you way it all up for flags it was about the same time scale as mortar pointing, the downsides were having to protect from rain and not being able to mix a small batch and still having to bend down and strike it into the joints to get a good joint(10mm wide 30-50mm deep). i had to bin 95% of a rompox patio mix the other day after pointing one replaced flag. but for the job i was doing where white pointing was specified it was the right product for the job.
but for crazy paving i would use a good old fashioned 3 or 4 to 1 mortar and get some knee pads or an old piece of kingspan haha
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:56 pm
by Jason Herring
Hi Romford, the rompox will joint your paving.. I've used it on much wider joints and it will be fine. However, it will cost you a lot money. If you want to get an estimate of how many tins you'll use fill a standard builders bucket with some sand and brush that in to your joints in a small area that's typical of the whole job.
A tin of "Easy" emptied in to the same bucket would have filled around 3/4 of the way up.. so logic says it would have covered 3/4 of what you've just brushed in sand.
Now take a look at the tiny area you've filled up and work out how many 15kg tins you'll get through...
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:46 pm
by Pablo
I would probably just slurry point it. Cheap, quick and if done right looks grand to.
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:24 pm
by Tony McC
While you could use Romex (or similar) products to joint crazy paving, the other lads are right in warning that it would take quite a lot and it isn't exactly the cheapest of materials. You have to decide whether the speed and cleanliness of a polymeric is worth the cost compared to a sand/cement mortar.
I'm surprised to hear GB say he finds it no quicker to use a polymeric compared to a standard mortar: it should be MUCH faster! Admittedly, jointing flags might not show quite as much of a time advantage, but when you're dealing with setts, cobble or small-piece crazy paving, the time saving should be considerable.
As for the wastage when needing only a small quantity of polymeric: watch this space. There could well be a 2.5kg "repair pack" available in the near future. 
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:09 pm
by GB_Groundworks
maybe more context is required on the job we just did where there where other trades on site and the weather was against us it felt about the same time scale, mixing, jointing, striking into joints, sweeping, covering. but a couple of times got it all wet down ready to start mixing only for the roofers to erect a scaffold tower etc. i would say with a clear area to go at poly's would be a lot quicker it was just we had road blocks thrown at us from all the other trades which didn't help.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:29 pm
by ambient
hoping to get hold of some romex next week got 65 metres of marshalls natural stone to point which one would you recommend tried rays number cant get hold of him will try again monday
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:06 pm
by Tony McC
Rompox Ray was at a meeting in Ireland on Friday. I only know this because I spent Thursday with a colleague of his.
If the stone is for patio use (no vehicles) then you could get away with the Romex Easy, but if it's a driveway or there is any vehicular use, go for the Romex Dran. Ray will be able to advise you.
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:20 pm
by ambient
thanks tony spoke to ray today hes going to call and see me this week he says his place is only in horwich cant believe nobody in bolton sells this
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:44 pm
by GB_Groundworks
i got my stuff from a place up bolton way, it was a garden centre and for the life of can't remember the name. i'll dig the invoice out of my briefcase in a minute
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:15 pm
by Jason Herring
bannister hall
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:30 pm
by Tony McC
I don't know if I'm allowed to mention this, but if all goes to plan, there will be a stockist in Bowt'n in the very near future....just a matter of dotting t's and crossing i's, allegedly.
Anyway: hasn't Julian at StoneScape in Wiggin got it in stock? I'm sure he's on my list of approved stockists (which I keep meaning to publish).
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:54 pm
by GB_Groundworks
bannister hall landscape supply, preston
01772877087