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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:43 pm
by sucker69
I am considering to lay indian sandstone on a ballast and cement base. Reading the main site it mentions the different bedding layers to use. I wonder if someone can kindly confirm if the bedding layer should be:

Sharp sand/cement 10:1 or 6:1

I understand that this should be mixed dry and the natural dampness from the sharp sand will fuse with the cement and cure over time. Or should a little water be added ?

Looking around the internet, I see some manufactures like Bradstone are suggesting building sand/cement 4:1.

Very confused and would appreciate some assistance from the wealth of experience on this magnificent site.

Thanks

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:43 pm
by TheVictorianCobbleCo
I'm sure others will detail extensively, but, if I understand you right, you need to compact about 100/150mm substrate, if its a patio then one can argue as to thickness etc, but to be sure do the above, then lay the sandstone on wet pug, supported 100%, at about 30mm - 50mm thick. grout with Romex preferrably, or offdry pug, which is then struck with a trowel. Now that I've started on this, you also need to butter each paver before laying etc, SO - I'm sure Tony covers this extensively, if not on this website then buy the book, you won't regret it.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:10 pm
by James.Q
for light use paving 10 /1 mix sharp sand cement
medium 6/1
heavey use 3/1
JQ :)

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:46 pm
by sucker69
How do I point a sequence of steps with a flag that overhangs
?

Is it possible to use M joint ?

Thanks

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:17 pm
by Joebuckley
a ratio of 4:1 will do, pretty tacky (not a dry mix!)
no need to butter the stone up realy as wen u give then a tap down the morter will find its way up the joints anyway
also i would point it up with "geo-fix", u just brush it in dry an it sets like iron.
it also brings the colours out in the stone.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:04 am
by lutonlagerlout
Joebuckley wrote:a ratio of 4:1 will do, pretty tacky (not a dry mix!)
no need to butter the stone up realy as wen u give then a tap down the morter will find its way up the joints anyway
also i would point it up with "geo-fix", u just brush it in dry an it sets like iron.
it also brings the colours out in the stone.
uh oh


think of your heart conditions lads


its hairdryer time


joe if you had read any of the site you would know that geofix has been totally and unquestionably condemned by all professional builders,i used it 6 times and it failed 6 times within a year
to paraphrase
its not worth a carrot

LLL

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:45 pm
by James.Q
true when weather clears up i have a shop front to re do thanks to geo fix total crap:(

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:00 pm
by Joebuckley
I only started using geofix 3 months ago an have done me last 4 jobs in it,
the first 1 has been down 9 weeks now an no problems so far but uve got me worried now tho! guess il be expexting a few fone calls in the near future then.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:34 pm
by lutonlagerlout
it will bite you joe
we use romex patio or romex easy
german and much better
easipoint do some nice stuff too
LLL :)

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:13 pm
by James.Q
the problem ive had is with steleto heels [shop is a hair dressers ] all seemed ok for a few months then one heel then another etc etc

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:35 am
by lutonlagerlout
you should be wearing boots james not stilettos!
LLL :D

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:30 pm
by James.Q
i know my feet are killing me at the end of the day. :p