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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:45 pm
by fallguy
Hi all .before I ask my question can I just complement you
on your superb web site Tony ,ever since i stumbled upon it 6 months ago
have been using it for reference in helping me in my garden project.Thank you .
I have been rebuilding a large part of my garden (done 2 retaining walls
2 sets of steps and fitted a new land drain and rain water grid with the help of this website :;): Anyway I have this curving path which i want to relay in these riven 450mm flags which i got ,but they aren't very easy to cut in the required curves with just a 9" angle grinder .(one of the set of steps i built had curved steps and it took me ages just to cut the slabs for the treads 
. so for the path instead of cutting the slabs, would it be ok to just lay the slabs without any cutting , then lay some sandstone edging stones on to the paved area to get the shape i need (the path sits lower than the garden over most it's length) . that would save me lot's of work .
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:23 am
by Tony McC
I can't follow your question. Yu plan to lay the flags without cutting them, but then use sandstone edgings over the paving? Can you explain in more detail?
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:35 pm
by fallguy
Hi again .sorry didn't I make my question clearer first time,
The path (currently made with crazy paving and approx 4' wide)goes around flower borders and 2 lawns all in curved shapes and they are slightly higher than the level of the path (about 5 to 6 inches' and the soil is retained by
small sandstone blocks ).I like the neat shape of the path so i want to keep it the same but want to repave it with some new 450 x 450 mm flags.so i was trying to think of good reason to not just lay the square flags wider than i need ,then cement the edging on top of the path to get the shapes i need.
regards .
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:49 am
by Tony McC
In theory, there's nowt wrong with the plan, but it's not a construction method that would be regarded as satisfactory if undertaken by a contractor.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:45 am
by thegardensurgery
I have had this problem before a customer asked if she could have a curved path......hmmnn well one solution was to buy and stone circle and use the segments to create the wind....but i was in favour of cutting a segment into each slab and creating a curve that way...it actually works and edge with some sets which draws your eye to the curve !
mad idea`s
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:15 pm
by Edgecraft
Hi
Amongst other things my main business is continuous concrete edging (basically concrete extruding), this process might suit your needs as it can be run over the edge of the flags and can be produced in many colours, textures and shapes.
I am in Greater Manchester but there a few others dotted around the country doing this type of work.
My website is www.edgecraft.co.uk have a look and see if you think it might work ?
Darren
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:35 pm
by lutonlagerlout
nice site darren ,is the gallery your own work or generic photos?
good stuff
LLL
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:55 pm
by Edgecraft
Hi Lutonlagerlout
Most of the pics are generic as I did the site eighteen months ago when I first got the machines, I should really find the time to update them, but to get really good pictures you need to go back when the customer has finished all the planting etc and to be honest I feel a bit of a berk going back asking to take pictures of my own work !
Although my van is covered in pictures of my own work.
Regards
Darren
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:11 pm
by lutonlagerlout
we were only talking about those machines a little while back on the forum,i think they look quite neat but others didnt like them
everywhere has got borders done with them in the states,well a lot anyway
cheers LLL 
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:32 pm
by Edgecraft
Hi Lutonlagerlout
The machines are great and pretty easy to use, the skill is in getting the moisture content of the mix just right and then troweling it after it has extruded.
I first saw the edging on holiday in Florida two years ago because as you say it's "everwhere", and we where so impressed at how neat it makes everything look we decided to find out more.... six months later we had the machines !
Things have been plodding along nicely but the main problem (besides the weather) has been explaining to people just exactly what the process is, In fact I now have some big photos on the sides of the van showing the machine actually extruding a brick effect kerb and it's amazing how many people stop and look trying to work out what it is ?
I think it will become very popular here once more people have seen it, and if PIC driveways are anything to go by we are generally only a few years behind the USA, or at least that's what I am hoping !
Regards
Darren
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:54 pm
by Tony McC
Wasn't there a lad (Paul??) in Bury that had the Kwik-kerb franchise?
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:29 pm
by James.Q
how easy to patch if problems occour ?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:10 pm
by Edgecraft
Hi Tony
Yes there is a guy in Bury with a Kwik Kerb franchise I spoke to him when I was looking at setting up.
I bought a Lil Bubba Machine as after trawling the U.S. forums they seem to be one of the best and are more substantial than a lot of the other machine out there, also there not in the franchise game they just make and sell the machines and accessories, there's not much point of franchising unless it's already established as a brand in the UK !
To answer your question James.Q
Expansion joint are cut approx every three foot, so if a probem occurs you should be able to remove that section and replace it without much problem, but you wouldnt use the machine to do this you would just hand trowel it with the matching shaped trowel.
Regards
Darren
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:10 pm
by Tony McC
If you're doing any jobs within 30 miles of Warrington, I'd like to observe and take some photies, please.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:31 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Fame at last darren!!
LLL