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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:16 am
by Jason Herring
Long time lurker and infrequent poster here. Went to glee earlier today in order to have a good look about but mainly so see if I could come to a conclusion on where I'm going when I'm jointing natural stonework.
I typically joint mixed packs of Indian Sandstone/Limestone and over the last couple of years have switched from traditional pointing off a trowel (slow but ok), to Geofix (quick but rubbish - only used it once), back to taditional, then to Romex.
With the Romex no complaints apart from slight staining on Kota Black with drain. Oh - and one job where I tried to mix in some black cementone with my sand in some romex patio. The customer liked the idea of realy dark joints and the cementone - being really dry - absorbed much of the epoxy resin and knackered the whole thing up. Re-did it next day with no dye.

Now to my point. Saw the Easijoint stand at glee. Saw their product. Really liked the look of it. It looks like a halfway product between traditional and brush in methods. It's a polymer compound. Mix a 25kg bag from a 10 colour range in with 4 litres of water with blender/gorilla bucket and instead of brushing like romex, scoop it in to a mortar gun and inject in to the joints. It had an easy texture to inject. Wait for it to go off a little then strike it or run a jointing bar round it.

It looked very neat on the stand and what appealed to me other then the process was the cement look finish. I'm not a big fan of the finish on brushed-in products, even after running jointing bar round them. The Easijoint stuff looked like well jointed and toned traditional finished cementitious pointing. Apparently it sets to over 50N too.

I'm doing a small job of Indian sandstone this week so thinking about running to Chorley to pick up a few bags to joint it with on Friday. The job is for my brother-in-laws mother who doesn't mind being a guinea pig.
I hadn't heard of this stuff before glee and would really appreciate any help or info from people who have used it before.

I know you were there Tony - just missed you by 5 minutes at GftK stand. Perhaps you know of the easijoint people in Chorley? Many thanks for any advice.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:38 am
by lutonlagerlout
at last a sensible post!!
i have to say that although romex is better than geofix,that great *new* look doesn't last long
mine has gone a kinda mucky grey colour,which i know with traditional pointing it would hose off
let us know how you get on Jason
cheers LLL

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:19 pm
by Tony McC
Sorry to have missed you, Jason, but at least 10 other regulars on the website did manage to catch up with me (Hi to Deckman, Ian G, John Ecky, Frankie, Saz, John F, Danny, the Geordie lads and all the others).

Anyway, Easipoint - I'm sure Sue will be along shortly to extol its undoubted virtues, but from my own point of view, it's a very good product that involves a degree more skill than the brush-in polymerics, and so you have to factor-in that to your overall costing.

My back is knackered now, so the chance of me being hunched over while squirting a mortar into a joint, like icing a christmas cake, is virtually nil, but, from past experience, I know that once you've got "the knack", it's quite fast and. with a bit of practice, gives a neat, clean and incredibly hard joint.

It's certainly worth a bash and, if you are fairly steady with your hands, it's a great method with proven results, but for those relying on cack-handed labourers, or drink-befuddled tradesmen to do the jointing, a brush-in product is safer and faster.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:15 pm
by Rich H
My local BM (AWBS) is going to start trialling it shortly. According to them, it's less attractive an option if you have joints of greater than 15mm. Given that with the best will in the world, your Indian Sandstone IS going to have some joints of greater than that, how suitable is it?

Also, I presume you have to get your buttering a bit more even than with either mortar or polymeric...?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:58 am
by SUE @ EASIPOINT
Morning All

Thanks for your vote of confidence Tony - of course I would extol the virtues of the product - we've been selling it to the industry for over 20 years! By the way we also have pourable and slurry applied mortars.

With regards to the comments from Rich. No problem with wider joints although personally I think aiming for an average joint width of 10mm on Indian Stone gives a better finish. Just pump the mortar into the joint leaving it slightly proud of the surface, when it's stiffened run your jointing iron along and sweep the excess away when dry. You won't get any staining unless you try to tool the mortar whilst its still wet.

Any other questions?

If anyone out these would like more info we do have an informative website and nationwide sales support or just give me a call at the office.

Cheers

Sue

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:31 pm
by Rich H
Thanks, Sue.

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:43 pm
by DeckmanAdam
Hi Tony,
Nice to meet you and thanks for your advice.