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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:02 pm
by dig dug dan
A customer has asked me to tile his existing concrete step, including the sides. He has brought the tiles, havent seen them yet.
What is the best method of getting them to stick , especially to the sides, and what should I use to grout them?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:15 pm
by andpartington
just use a cement mix (3 to 1 ) and grout in the normal way using the same cement after the bedding has gone off
brush a cement slurry on to the back of the tiles and on the step just to be on the safeside I had some lift off once but never since I used the slurry
this is mouthing new quarry tiles have been layed on cement for decades
andy
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:25 am
by glyn1206
I would add pva to the cement mix to be on the safe side
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:17 pm
by dig dug dan
Thanks Guys
I suspected it might be the case, but couln't be sure!
regards
Dan
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:20 am
by simeonronacrete
Don't use PVA, this isn't designed for outside or damp conditions...
Primer
1:1 Ronafix cement
Bedding Mortar
1 part cement
3 parts medium sharp sand
1:1 Ronafix : water
Clean and prepare the surface; eg power wash, scabble, needle gun, wire brush
Leave damp with clean water
Brush apply Primer
Lay 6mm (min) Bedding Mortar
Clean back of tile, damp and prime with Primer
Lay into Mortar
Allow 24-48 hours to gain strength and bond
Grout
Use
See our website
then
Products
Bedding & Bonding
Documents
Ronafix
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:38 am
by glyn1206
with ref to the use of pva added to mortar etc. Look at Tony's page on repairing concrete.I have used it several times for outside work and it has proved very usefull.
One example was with a slotted concrete post at the end of a run of fencing which the client wanted flush!
I did the job years ago and it is still there.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:15 am
by simeonronacrete
I can't deny you may have had a success; however there is a distinct performance difference between PVA and our Ronafix, and all the data points to longer term durability, water resistance, bond, strength, with Ronafix than PVA.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:04 pm
by dig dug dan
This ronanfix is all well and good if you can buy it locally. You can't, so it is out of the question. Trying to get hold of romex for pointing a patio. Cant get it
One example was with a slotted concrete post at the end of a run of fencing which the client wanted flush!
Couldn't you just buy an end post?
Edited By dig dug dan on 1169139919
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:15 pm
by lutonlagerlout
agreed dan ,gear has to be available,
everywhere i go they still got sikafix or geofix,
no sign of any romex
pva has worked fine for me in the past. but i never see ronafix in the merchants so cant use it
cheers LLL
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:59 am
by simeonronacrete
If you know where to look...
W T Burden (what used to be Adawall)
BBM Support Site
Travis Perkins
independents
or call us; we offer next day delivery across the UK
Regards
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:10 pm
by Ted
If I have to adhere a slab/tile to a step where the slab overhangs the riser, I sometimes use exterior grade tile adhesive.
It is not cheap and goes off in about 20 mins. The tile/slab is not going anywhere with that stuff.
Sand/cement does not adhere it so well butt iis normally perfectly adequate. I would only use adhesive if the tile/slab is in a vulnerable position due to the cost.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:34 pm
by lutonlagerlout
If you know where to look...
W T Burden (what used to be Adawall)
BBM Support Site
Travis Perkins
independents
or call us; we offer next day delivery across the UK
no wonder i have never seen it ,i have had that many bad experiences (financially) in travis perkins i normally drive out of my way rather than go into them .my mate mate reckons"travis perkins" was an 18th century highwayman and they are trying to keep up the good work LOL.
am doing a patio tomorrow so may just ring you and give the romex it's lagerlout airing
cheers simeon
regards LLL 
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:30 pm
by dig dug dan
Tony
Travis perkins dont sell romex. I think this is a different company to ronacrete. I need to buy some for some paving I am doing next week. I am going to order some monday for delivery straight to site so i will let you knowhow I get on
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:07 pm
by lutonlagerlout
doh!
maybe its me who has been hitting the bottle dan 
i should have said i have never seen romex or ronafix in BMs
is it just me or does anyone else find travis perkins and jewsons expensive??
cheers LLL (700)
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:25 pm
by dig dug dan
No its not just you. I call the travis rip off.
The staff are rude, unhelpful, and I hate them so much, I would rather travel out of my way to get materials from another supplier than use them.
My mate had an account there and he went in to buy a 9" diamond blade. they quoted him £10. When the bill came, he was charged £70. He queried it and stated he was told £10, and they called him a liar. He closed his account, but before he did so, he gave them a big order, then cancelled it at the last minute!!!