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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:04 pm
by Forestboy1978
I'm thinking that a wheel barrow of 90 litres holds about 60kg in dirt or more of concrete etc to a max of 120kg
I'm seeing a mini dumper as a practical buy to move things along quickly. If I dumper takes 250 -300kg then factoring in the loading time with a digger you're still getting double output per man whilst stressing the worker a lot less.
Anyone use them and if so what do they use?
Very serious about getting one for a large patio driveway job I'm starting in mid August. It'll eat half my income for that job so I'm thinking carefully about it.
Liking the look of these and I've had no probs with Briggs engines in the past https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p....1nw_wcB
Obviously looking at the more expensive Belle too which is 130 litre as opposed to roughly 160 for the Handy one and more expensive but with Honda engine.
Ta
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:10 pm
by Forestboy1978
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:21 pm
by michaelthegardener
allways wanted a belle one :p but im sensible and know I wouldn't have got much use out of it 
id love to know if one would actually climb stairs though like in the promo vids .............. just out of interest where the hell do you keep all your stuff you seam to have so much :rock:
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:43 pm
by dig dug dan
Go for one that loads a skip, I.e. the skip bucket lifts up and tips.
the belle one is ok, but holds too little and you have to carry round a purpose built ramp all the time
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:10 pm
by Forestboy1978
any reason you couldn't ride one up a pair of standard 3 meter ramps to the top and tip from them at an angle into a skip?
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:59 pm
by dig dug dan
The belle one would roll backwards unless you had a level section, the other would not tip enough angle as you are already tipped backwards.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:03 am
by Dave_L
I've never heard of the motor on that one; beware if you need repairs etc on it as you won't be able to get them. The same is very true for cheap Chinese gensets etc
Stick to Briggs and Stratton or Honda motors.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:13 am
by Forestboy1978
dig dug dan wrote:The belle one would roll backwards unless you had a level section, the other would not tip enough angle as you are already tipped backwards.
hand brake??
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:20 am
by Forestboy1978
Dave_L wrote:
I've never heard of the motor on that one; beware if you need repairs etc on it as you won't be able to get them. The same is very true for cheap Chinese gensets etc
Stick to Briggs and Stratton or Honda motors.
Loncin are Honda copies I believe so honda parts bolt on but yeah I get what you are saying.
However, I can't afford a high tipper
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:23 am
by exoticpete
Hi We've hired this Messersi CH2/N13 800kg capacity tracked dumper great little machine just don't turn too tightly or the track can come off :p
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:54 am
by mickg
I used to hire the Messersi but decided to buy the HT 500 high lift tracked dumper as the bucket is lower to the ground and is rectangular in shape rather than an irregular shape
I also bought the Truxta which is an articulate 4 x 4 wheeled dumper but not high lift, it also comes with a flat back attachment which is ideal for moving flags paving or turf
we had a couple of jobs where it was up hill from the pavement and are both are ideal as you don't feel fatigued as the day goes on pushing a wheel barrow uphill all day
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:55 am
by Forestboy1978
michaelthegardener wrote:allways wanted a belle one :p but im sensible and know I wouldn't have got much use out of it id love to know if one would actually climb stairs though like in the promo vids .............. just out of interest where the hell do you keep all your stuff you seam to have so much :rock:
Michael - I store it all in my truck, van and a double garage. Along with my workshop and power rack it's a living hell but I manage, just about..
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:50 pm
by GB_Groundworks
we have a mini 700kg track dumper thats very handy will fit through 900mm
got 2 1 ton high tips as well which are great but they need 1200mm and do more damage to grass etc
mini track dumper
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:56 pm
by GB_Groundworks
there was one an articulated 4 wheel one at hill head show might be the one mick has ill go check my pics
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:07 pm
by mickg
yeah it was I saw it there on a couple of stands Giles
the 450kg size was not launched when I bought mine last year but it won't fit down a 900mm side path to the rear garden so I am happy having the 300kg version, we still have it loaded with a bit more weight than what they say it can carry without the greedy board attachment
Truxta