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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:43 pm
by michaelthegardener
ok so got a few 110v tools I use for work and I bought a 110v table saw on ebay cos it was cheap and ive already got the transformer :D trouble is the plugs to big ??? can I just change it or do I need a bigger transformer ?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:51 pm
by rxbren
Different transformer the large plugs are 32amp whereas the small ones are 16amp

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:18 pm
by lemoncurd1702
Aw shit these new 32kv are a pain in the arse and it seems that all new 110v tools work on 32kv.
9 out of 10 customers box will trip when I plug it in, particularly the newer houses :angry:

Makes a good case for 240V machines with a safety plug.
And those 32 kv transformers weigh a tonne :O

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:26 pm
by rxbren
You can use 240 if you have a rcd either part if the plug or one that sits between the plug and socket

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:46 pm
by seanandruby
I have a 9 onch electric grinder saw with big plugs and o just changed the plug for the smaller one
Not sure if it's allowed because of safety nut maybe for more power , mine has never tripped yet. Consult a sparky is bedy bet.

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:32 pm
by lemoncurd1702
I've had it checked out blah, blah, the issue seems to be with the initial draw/surge of power. Fine if the customers are at home to reset rcd and happy to reset all the clocks in the house/poppity ping/oven etc everyday.
I have a wet masonry saw bench which uses this 32 kv but unless it's a big job out comes the dusty 9 incher(ahem) which I'd rather not. The health and safety, or whoever have moved it to the 32kv route are responsible for making me irresponsible. Pah :angry: :angry:

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:23 am
by GB_Groundworks
32amp sockets are only for high powered stuff only reason not any other, you can get the bigger 13amp trannies with a 32amp socket like 3 times the size of your normal yellow box or we have a big one with 6 X 16amp and 2 X 32 amp but plugs into 415v le grande socket

Generator?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/321999759031




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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:56 am
by lemoncurd1702
A genny's a possibility but another piece of large kit to carry around, I'll need to get a artic to carry everthing.

I'm pretty sure that any new 110volt tools comes with the 32 kv socket as Michael found out. Pain in the butt.

And Michael, I tried that one (changing plug for the smaller tranny), just keeps tripping out. If your just using the table saw in your new mancave :D I would get the 32kva tranny

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:03 am
by michaelthegardener
yeah its just for the mancave :D thought 60 quid was to cheap for it now i know why :p

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:05 pm
by dig dug dan
Only ever use 230volt. Saves all the aggro, and the transformer still has to plug in to 230volt, so whats the point?

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:56 pm
by michaelthegardener
well I managed to get a transformer for 50 quid and the saw works well so im happy :)

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:44 am
by cookiewales
dig dug dan wrote:Only ever use 230volt. Saves all the aggro, and the transformer still has to plug in to 230volt, so whats the point?
It's far safer shock won't kill ya if your going to use 230/240 make sure you have good rcd not just one that's on extension cable 😂 Life is to short to take risks

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:14 am
by seanandruby
The point is DDD 110v versus 230v is the difference between life and death :p :;):

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:20 am
by dig dug dan
seanandruby wrote:The point is DDD 110v versus 230v is the difference between life and death :p :;):
But doesnt a 110 transformer still plug into a 240 supply?

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:45 am
by seanandruby
Yes it does plug on and then it is stepped down to 110 v a far safer power. You may of notices that the leads on transformer are not very long that is to keep it inside out of danger. As Cookie said IF you were going to use 240 outside then a RCD is needed. They need to be checked daily. There is an argument about cordless being used on sites but it is frowned upon. On large sites all electric tools are PAT tested every few months. An easy test you can do DDD is have a 110 cable and a230 cable plugged in then with bare hands cut into the 230v first, then cut into thev110 :laugh: