The dark art of mixing cement - What am i doing wrong?

For the discussion of hand tools, power tools, operated and non-operated plant, and all sorts of kit associated with the paving and drainage trades
Post Reply
Ouch
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:56 pm
Location: Newport -Wales

Post: # 104309Post Ouch

I'm trying to mix concrete using a mini-mix type mixer: I put 3 bags of 'all in' ballast into a wetted (or just used) mixer (each bag being 25kg), and then half a bag (12.5kg) of cement. Switch it on, then add water once the dry mix is even looking.

I'm finding that after adding water and letting it churn for a bit, the gravel seems to rise to the 'top' and the the sand stay stuck around the drum. What am I doing wrong? Am I mixing it too long? Not long enough? Should I add the components a bit at a time? Water first? Align the mixer with my nearest lay-line?

Any tips for a concretey novice welcome.. thanks..

lutonlagerlout
Site Admin
Posts: 15182
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:20 am
Location: bedfordshire

Post: # 104311Post lutonlagerlout

yes wrong mate
correct method is
1 mixer on!
2 third- half bucket of water
3 4-5 shovels of ballast
4 half bag of cement
5 remaining ballast
6 add extra water as needed for correct slump
7 tip into barrow and lay

dont worry I did this on my first day on a building site back in 1983 and got bollocked for it :;):
LLL
"what,you want paying today??"

YOUR TEXT GOES HERE

Ouch
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:56 pm
Location: Newport -Wales

Post: # 104313Post Ouch

I'll consider myself bollocked then :)

thanks!

Tony McC
Site Admin
Posts: 8346
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:27 pm
Location: Warrington, People's Republic of South Lancashire
Contact:

Post: # 104638Post Tony McC

Site Agent - Pavingexpert

Forestboy1978
Posts: 1000
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:57 am
Location: southampton, hampshire

Post: # 104871Post Forestboy1978

Mixing mortar for hand grouting is the one I find a PITA. I don't think I'll ever do it again, so easy to **** up peoples patios.

KAMIKAZEE DIY
Posts: 139
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:45 pm
Location: Scotland

Post: # 104875Post KAMIKAZEE DIY

Forest boy,

I recently repointed/grouted my dad's patio.

I used a plasterers paddle mixer stuck on a drill and mixed in a bucket.

Measured my 3 sand 1 cement in a measuring jug to get consistent colour and got on fine.

Just a little bit water at a time to get it right,

Think mixing just a buckets worth at a time helped me coz mortar was still fresh by time I got too bottom of bucket.

This saved my dad a fair bit cash compared to using weatherpoint 365, but, it was time consuming and I can see the sense why contractors seem keen on weatherpoint.

Still it's good to held your dad out, he's done plenty for me.
Cheers

Forestboy1978
Posts: 1000
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:57 am
Location: southampton, hampshire

Post: # 104877Post Forestboy1978

KAMIKAZEE DIY wrote:Forest boy,

I recently repointed/grouted my dad's patio.

I used a plasterers paddle mixer stuck on a drill and mixed in a bucket.

Measured my 3 sand 1 cement in a measuring jug to get consistent colour and got on fine.

Just a little bit water at a time to get it right,

Think mixing just a buckets worth at a time helped me coz mortar was still fresh by time I got too bottom of bucket.

This saved my dad a fair bit cash compared to using weatherpoint 365, but, it was time consuming and I can see the sense why contractors seem keen on weatherpoint.

Still it's good to held your dad out, he's done plenty for me.
Good info. I'll def do that next time, if there is a next time.

God I hate that job though, of all of them, that's the one!

Post Reply