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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:28 pm
by mickavalon
I'm thinking of getting an Evolution electric Disc saw, 12" blade, but I've never used one so I was wondering if anyone had any views. I now they can be fitted to a dust extractor, Obviously not a water kit! But has anyone got any experience of them? I'm running 2 petrol saws at the moment, 1 Makita and 1 Husqvarna,
both of which have water kits, but to be fair are old and a constant hassle to start, run etc. I usually have no problem with them, but I turn my back and leave them with the lads and evil pixies get hold of them and break them. I'm constantly fitting new pull cords, re-fitting springs, filters, running around to get petrol/oil, nagging them to use the water kits, they don't seem worth the hassle. Any opinions people? ???
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:03 pm
by msh paving
Personally I would not dream of a electric saw for paving work,
If I had to by one it would be a main brand makita, bosch, dewalt.as they have the back up,
Power on the job is a issue, if customers have a outside plug....genny is no beter than using a 2 stroke saw,
But this is only my view 
MSH
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:38 pm
by lutonlagerlout
we used to use a 9 inch leccy grinder for block paving
absolute nightmare as no clutch
if you got a blockage the block went flying like a missile
LLL
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:03 am
by GB_Groundworks
What about an 110v clipper saw on a bench or a petrol one honda engines built in water recycling pump can be moved in van set up then all cuts and mess in one place?
Between me and dad we've hot 3 x ts400s 1 x ts410 1 x makita 1 x old husky 2 x older partner k400 and a big partner k1000 400mm rail saw
But like you say keeping them running is a nightmare, I write on them the starting procedure using decompressor etc lads don't use them and snap cords. Or cords get wet then snap,
Fuel as well getting the right mix we only use the little stihl bottles you snap the top off now rather than pouring it out a 2.5 litre oil bottle.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:46 pm
by lutonlagerlout
same just the stihl 100ml oils per 5 litres
and never get the saw wet
LLL
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:04 pm
by mickg
I have 5 TS 410's, the latest 2 are 19 months old and are still using the same chord what came with the saw, we did not clean the air filters for the first 12 months and they still kept going
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:54 am
by msh paving
^^^^same as mine Mick, a pull cord will last me a up to 18 months there is no reason to keep snapping cords, the cord should be about 2 inches longer than your arm pull so it does not stop when its pulled, no point it using a short cord as it does not pull engine over enough to start it.
the 410's are designed not to need air filter cleaning very often.
MSH
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:04 am
by mike builder/landscaper
I have the evolution electric saw mick, had it two years no problems, it's great for cutting out door ways and windows in brick work, lighter than a petrol saw and a lot less noisy.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:41 pm
by DNgroundworks
2 x ts410 here, have used them makita saws before and i think they are absolute rubbish, always a nightmare to start, stihl are by far the top of the tree i reckon.
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:28 pm
by mickavalon
Still not sure, had a crap day Thursday with a Makita which didn't want to play fair, and our Husqvana is now resigned to ebay. The problem with the petrol saws is there high maintenance, and unless you use a water kit, messy. But then some of you are saying don't get the saws wet??? In the UK and with a water kit? How's that happening? Our projects are always domestic, so electric's rarely an issue and I was mainly wondering if anyone had used a dust extractor with an electric saw, does it work, will it block?
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:48 pm
by GB_Groundworks
We always wet cut with the stihl pump bottles just don't get the pull cord start stop and filters wet if possible
Electric is hs nightmare even with 110v you've still got trip hazards and leads every where petrol all the way
Just train the guys how to use and look after them properly and them tell them off for the first few weeks when they ignore you
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:09 am
by lutonlagerlout
I mean wet as the saw sitting out in the rain
if you use the water bottle there is very little mess if you get the flow right
you only need a trickle to suppress the dust we are coming up to a year with the 410 on the same cord
I always buy exactly 5 litres of petrol and use the stihl 100ml bottles of 2 stroke
10 pumps of the bulb with choke on fires first time
choke off starts 2nd time
cheers LLL
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:17 am
by Dave_L
That's it Tony, I hate it when I see guys pulling and pulling away on these saws, there is no reason to struggle to start these tools.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:46 pm
by mickavalon
I've already decided to buy a new Stihl, just got to get one at the right price. Thought long and hard on this one, your all right about leads getting in the way, and water, i.e rain, is a bit of an issue with electric tools!!! So it's the full monty with water kit and lot's of bollockings when they break it!! As you say Dave there is no need to keep yanking the life out the pull cord to start it, what normally happens is one of them forgets how to do the correct procedure, floods the machine or runs it without checking the fuel. I've had them fill machines up with unmixed petrol, or visa versa. Why do people break things and not admit to it??? I've lost count of the amount of tools that have been ruined by being left in the rain, misused or just plain lost.
I dare not have any new gear in the pick up, because all of a sudden their old gloves/saw/stanley blade/pencil/chalk/marker/diamond blade/clean tool etc is no more, LOL. I have a Dewalt 18v hammer drill in my van, for me to use, for which I have a quick change bit holder. The amount of these I get through in a year is unbelievable, mainly because they take them out of the chuck and put them down somewhere, every time they change the tool bit????? :p
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:20 pm
by lutonlagerlout
welcome to my world mick!
when we had the old ts 350 i learnt the lesson the hard way
for the sake of a pound a bottle I buy 10 little bottles of stihl oil at a time
and always fill an empty can with exactly 5 litres
saw starts every time and no yank yank yank to get it started
water bottle are about £45 plus
LLL