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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:40 pm
by ambient
the diesel has been waxing up in the digger and crusher had major problems with this today bought 1100 litres in the summer so i guess its not winter treated any advice on what to do about it never had this before 
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:46 pm
by msh paving
in a word...nothing..........diesel will wax in the cold unless you warm the tank up i have defrosted old dumpers with a small fire and warmed up with a blow tourch but it not the ideal answer,
MSH 
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:31 pm
by GB_Groundworks
in an extreme get you out of $hit situation or your stuck in the wilderness you can thin it down with a bit of petrol but only a bit
there are cold weather add mixtures i think for diesel
i am not recommending anyone do this, but good to know in an emergency
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:36 pm
by ambient
giles, already tried petrol didnt work, think im going to have to drain it and put white in just thought there might be an additive you can buy
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:41 pm
by GB_Groundworks
white and red are the same just a different dye
most white is blue actually, its the same refinement its only the duty which makes it cheaper. thats why the engines run for 10000 hours
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:43 pm
by digerjones
is there much difference with red and white, when it goes down to -12 -14 my pick up starts but runs like a dog for 10-20 mins till it clears i thought it might be my diesel freezing and yes it is white. the diggers are no prob as long as i can get them going. any thoughts
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:22 pm
by rab1
its the same, only the colour is different for vat reasons. the nhs used to/might still do dye all of there issued fuel blue (see if anyones stealing it)
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:47 pm
by GB_Groundworks
diesel has a blueish tone when refined its dyed white/red and red has a chemical trace element added so even when filter with cat liter etc like the ira did/do for years its still traceable by the mobile testing stations.
my uncle used to be MD of Total fina elf south africa
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:30 pm
by ambient
the white diesel from local petrol station is winter treated so shouldnt wax up ,my red is untreated summer fuel thats why was going to change it
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:46 am
by msh paving
Up to you ambient, but i would not waste time in draining it off you will need to change filters if it has waxed up that bad,white diesel still freezes the same as red its inherent in the product
with the crusher can you get it in a warmer shed to defrost then cover it at night with a heavy tarp.diesel wont freeze if being used and moving MSH
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:52 am
by Trevski
My LandCruiser is diesel and has an 80 litre tank, I put 1 gallon of kerosene to a full tank to stop it freezing in our Uk temps.
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:53 am
by Dave_L
Yes - as above, add kerosene to the diesel ^
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:31 am
by lutonlagerlout
we always used to add 1 gallon of petrol to our old bedford tk350,that was back in the 80's when the winters were colder
also used to light fires under the fuel lines to thaw them out
I dont miss all that TBH,priming the engine as well, pain in the rear
cheers LLL
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:43 am
by GB_Groundworks
i followed a T reg(prefix) bedford tk gritting and ploughing the other day council must have called on anyone with a plough and gritter, had a donkey engine on side to run gritter haha. whats that 1970's on a T at the end? they were dogs those old tk's but rock solid go for ever engineering
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:59 am
by lutonlagerlout
T 01 August 1978 31 July 1979
it was what i would call a proper lorry,tacho and all that
my old man had another lorry that has curved glass at the footwells,cant remember the name but its funny how you remember little things like that
the pikeys nicked the gearbox out of the tk when it was parked up at our old yard (now million pound houses )
when you drove those old wagons for a day your arms were hanging off at night,none of that power steering in them days
LLL