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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:36 pm
by stav 75
I have been looking at buying a new breaker for light to moderate use, now, a couple of years ago I worked with a guy who bought one & reckoned they were really good, of course now we have lost touch I can't ask him if it still works!
All the screw fix reviews seem brilliant ,& cant seem to find a bad word against it anywhere else.
So my question is has anybody any practicle experience with these & if so are they worth the money.. (£200 ish)
Thanks
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:40 pm
by oioisonnyboy
If you are willing to spend £200 then my advise, for what its worth ??? would be to look around for a second hand breaker.
names worth thinking about are hilti te series, milwaukee kango, makita or bosch.
They are all well known manufacturers, quality products and well proven. The only thing with buying a screwfix own brand one is that if it does go pop then spare part will be hard to come by and it will probably be chaeper to buy a new one. with a second hand quality one any half decent hire or tool shop will be able to get spare parts. carbon brushes, switches etc is stuff that is likely to wear out.
For light diy use then the screwfix one probably ok, but better quality, better tool, better backup in case things go wrong is a second hand one.
my erbauer 9" grinder (£49) gave up the ghost after 3 months. bite the bulet and bought a hitachi with case and diamond blade for £80and its still going fine over a year later
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also a bit of dust and wear on a tool makes it look like you know what you are doing with it :laugh:
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:42 pm
by stav 75
Oh yes you always have to smear a bit of dirt on! I was on a job the other day & my Bosch drill gave up the ghost so of course I had to get a new one there & then to finish, of course sod's law it was just the day after I had recieved a payment , So I tried to hide the nice shiny new case from the client ... doesn't really look good ! 
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:53 pm
by stav 75
Yes, I would prefer to buy a good brand such as Hilti as I know these are good through experience I guess even second hand they are still have plenty of mileage,
I can't say Ive really had any excellent cheaper tools so I tend to stay away from them now I am on my own anyway but as I say all sounds good , then again yes on reflection the parts & servicing etc could be an issue as you say.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:00 pm
by Dave_L
Stav, what are you intending to break out with this tool and how often?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:25 pm
by GB_Groundworks
buy cheap, pay twice....
bosch and hilti for us on light breakers, kango for medium, bosch 110v road breaker, compressor driven jack hammers, 1.5-7 ton krupp hammers for when things get really hard going haha.
had a erbauer paddle mixer burnt out after a week of hard use,
milwaukee is made by hilti like dewalt is black and decker
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:05 pm
by rab1
cheap tools aren't worth the money, buy quality and it lasts. one of the lads had a hilti drill which broke, as its his, we said we would pay to have it fixed and sent it to hilti. hilti called to say that spare parts are no longer available as the drill was 27yrs old and production of that model stopped about 15yrs ago. they [hilti] did give the man around a 60% discount on a new gun though.
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:52 am
by lutonlagerlout
makita and hilti here quality tools
our makita 12.5kg breaker breaks much about anything
LLL
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:51 am
by Dave_L
GB_Groundworks wrote:buy cheap, pay twice....
bosch and hilti for us on light breakers, kango for medium, bosch 110v road breaker, compressor driven jack hammers, 1.5-7 ton krupp hammers for when things get really hard going haha.
had a erbauer paddle mixer burnt out after a week of hard use,
milwaukee is made by hilti like dewalt is black and decker
Compressor driven hammer? Bloody old antique that is, haven't used one in years! Swear by the JCB BeaverPack, so easy to carry about and is pretty powerful.
Anything beyond that we hire a 1.5/2.5t machine in with a pecker. We never use our own machines with a pecker on. Pecker use is very harsh on a machine imo.
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:34 am
by stav 75
@ Dave L, well it would only be for chipping out posts , edges & the occasional pathway as anything bigger I would tend to hire a larger hydraulic one anyway. I have my eye on the hilti 905 AVR( I think from memory)...
I used one years ago to set up a gate post I went armed with a spade, small breaker & chisels etc intending to take half a day, when in fact it ended up being a two day journey through solid stone!! :laugh: , but things soon got done once mr Hilti arrived;)
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:44 am
by GB_Groundworks
Dave_L wrote:GB_Groundworks wrote:buy cheap, pay twice....
bosch and hilti for us on light breakers, kango for medium, bosch 110v road breaker, compressor driven jack hammers, 1.5-7 ton krupp hammers for when things get really hard going haha.
had a erbauer paddle mixer burnt out after a week of hard use,
milwaukee is made by hilti like dewalt is black and decker
Compressor driven hammer? Bloody old antique that is, haven't used one in years! Swear by the JCB BeaverPack, so easy to carry about and is pretty powerful.
Anything beyond that we hire a 1.5/2.5t machine in with a pecker. We never use our own machines with a pecker on. Pecker use is very harsh on a machine imo.
yeah very handy when you 6m down in a drop shaft breaking your way out, can use one hose to power attchement and other to blow clean air in.
we always hire machine in for sheet pilling, shakes the sh*t out of them haha. occasional hammer work is acceptable,
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:20 pm
by oioisonnyboy
what giles said
and a compressor is handy for other stuff, blowing out shutters, bits of scabbling and for work in confined spaces little hand held demo picks or FL22s are useful...underpinning jobs etc nothing beats an FL22 clayspade. Where petrol tools are not suitable in confined spaces (e.g. basements, tanks etc) use an air powered disc cutter.
peckers do eat bushes and rings on machines. Some people also say that they reduce the life and quality of the hydralic fluid which in turn can knacker pumps on the machine being used for breaking...and don't forget the flying lumps of concrete that always end up on the cab floor on a pile of broken glass 
a friend of my old man was a hire driver "Back in the day" and he would always ask to go out on the JCB hammermaster, between 2cx and 3cx, piped for hammer. All the other drivers wouldn't touch the hammermaster, noisy, shaky etc. but his logic was when you are hired to go breaking out, you might be breaking for perhaps 2-3 hours per day. If you are hired to dig...then you dig alllllll day...result, hammermaster driver phil back in the yard at 2pm latest, days money and afternoon to do other stuff :;):
crafty eh?
