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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:01 pm
by scoffsred
Howdy men, i'm gonna have to spend a few quid on a concrete breaker because im sick of forking out £60 p/day to hire one from the local robbing buggers who call themselves a hire shop. The way i see it is i havn't enough work just yet to justify buying a brand new shiny one, so i was thinking about a 2nd hand machine, is this wise or am wasting me hard earned?

Dave

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:43 pm
by Dave_L
Breakers (or peckers as we call them!) are pretty hardy attachments, which should give years of service if looked after.

Stolen ones do circulate, so steer clear of those.

I've never looked out for one, I guess there must be a few in the Plant Trader? Fairly safe bet to buy from a dealer.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:45 pm
by Dave_L
We use Indeco breakers, seem to get the job done!

http://www.indeco-uk.co.uk/

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:57 pm
by scoffsred
Sorry, i probably wasnt clear in what iuse the breaker for, i use them mainly for digging post holes, by hand, so those indeco 1s are a bit too heavy, i was thinking bout a jcb beaver? is that the correct name of them, they run off a diesel generator.:D

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:25 pm
by Dave_L
Ahhhhhh a JCB Beaver Breaker, small hydraulic powered gun.

That's what we use, no need for anything bigger (air powered)

Are you paying £60/day for one????? eek!

Quite a few go on ebay, some might be bargains whilst others might be tired old junk. They certainly hold their money.

You'll need a chisel and a point to get full use from it. They can loose their power, a simple re-gas sorts this out.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:28 pm
by Dave_L
Here's one, for those who don't know what we are on about.....nice and new!!!

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The new style anti-vibration guns aren't (in my opinion) as nice or 'accurate' to use as the older style less insulated guns.

Early type

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Later anti-vibe type

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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:35 pm
by lutonlagerlout
bit OTT for fence posts,we have one of them and its really noisy and a dead weight to carry round
i have a 13 kg makita breaker and that is the best i have ever used bar compressor types
light enough to work with but breaks anything
LLL

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:08 am
by Suggers
Blimey - feel like it's my first day at school with you blokes around....
Anyboby love "Tool Time" ?... the mrs takes the proverbial.....
ps - We have a real Tim Taylor local to us .....

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:27 am
by Rich H
I think brandon charges £15 a day to account customers for the heavy deWalt electric breaker. I bought a chinese copy a couple of years ago and it needs a new motor already. Not to be recommended - spend in haste, repent at leisure, etc. etc.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:48 pm
by 118-1187271617
if you do get a JCB beaver, don't go for diesel...

1 they are well heavy
2 they are a sod to start on a pull cord
3 if it goes wrong you would be better off buying a new unit. JCB do not supply diesel models in the UK except directly to people like network rail or balfours, for safety reasons, so parts are a nightmare.

Petrol ones honda engined run for 10-12 years sweet as a nut...watch out for exhire ones too...they don't sell them off till they are, in the words of Hire Station, "Properly shagged"

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:30 pm
by scoffsred
Thanks for all the advice lads, especially the advice on the diesel genny, i thought that would have been the top choice, how would you know if they were ex-hire shop though?
and yes hewdens are charging £60 + vat a day.

thats why i want to buy one, i'm not into making other people rich, esp big flip off company's like that.

On the subject of the Makita 13kg breaker, does that not need a generator in tow or am i thinking of another machine?

Dave

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:39 pm
by 118-1187271617
ex hire ones usually have stickers plastered all over them, either saying "Property of speedy hire theiving bast*rds ltd" or saying "This equipment is next due for test sept. 1998". If they can't be bothered to scrape off all the stickers, then they just lick it over once with a bit of paint :p

makita (if it's the one i'm thinking of) does not need a comp or anything like that...but an extension lead would be handy

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:31 pm
by lutonlagerlout
sorry ,yes the makita needs electrickery,but in terms of what it can break its worth it
goes through concrete 100mm thick like a knife throughbutter
we hired a few different ones before we commited to this one but it is the dogs
its the 4th one down this page 9.3 kg,dunno where i got 13 from??such is life
makita demo hammers
cheers LLL

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
had a look online and found this,gutted really as we paid 6 and a half for ours
here
cheers LLL :)

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:08 pm
by scoffsred
I usually hire 1 of these bruisers, heavy as fook though.

Here