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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:37 pm
by Teddy
I am just about to order a 20 tonne load of MOT from here...
http://www.onlineturf.co.uk/order/basket.asp

£342.37 for 20 tonnes seems ok to a DIYer like me...

Question is my driveway is 2.85 metres wide. Can anybody tell me if my driveway is wide enough for the lorry to tip its load or will they want to pile it up on the road outside? Anybody know the laws of piling up stuff on the road? We don;t have a grass verge but the road is a quiet residential road...good width though.

Obviously it's easier if they can get it on the drive but if they can't I have a mini digger to assist me.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:18 pm
by lutonlagerlout
well as long as the tipper is narrower than 2.85 m you will be fine,you are supposed to get a permit for tipping on the road ,but if you get it moved in that day,there is normally no problems
regards LLL :)

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:50 pm
by Ted
I have had a couple of tonnes of ballast sitting on a road for over a month...

Not that I recommend you use the publuic highway as a storage area...

Also, 20 tonnes is a bit more than two...

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:15 pm
by Stuarty
We often have stuff tipped on the road because we cant get a wagon into the job. We have found as long as theres plenty room left for traffic and its moved as soon as you should be fine. Most we had on the road at one time was 3 wagon loads, it was all gone in 2 days though.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:01 pm
by Teddy
I've done abit of research and it seems a lorry capable of delivering 20 tonnes will fit in the drive with a small gap on either side.
So I've orderd the MOT! I can't wait to see how big a pile it is! Just hope it doesn't try and push the garden wall over! I think I might take preventative action and prop it up while the stuff is being tipped.

Thanks guys

T

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:32 pm
by Stuarty
Take note - if you instruct the wagon driver to drive on your property they will not take responsibility for any damage caused.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:29 pm
by IanMelb
Teddy wrote:So I've orderd the MOT! I can't wait to see how big a pile it is!
This is an *8* tonne load when delivered:

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and when shifted:

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It spread to about 2.5-3m diamater on delivery.

It's a bugger to shovel by hand (loads of pointy edges) so if you can get your shovel sliding along a solid surface (e.g. driveway, assuming it's not gravel) then that helps.

The mini digger should be a help :)

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:48 am
by Teddy
Yeah my experience of shifting the stuff by hand has taught me that moving 20 tonnes with a spade or shovel is a no no.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:30 pm
by slimdotjim
20 tonnes is a lot of spade work. If its a long straight drive try and get the driver to reverse to the end,then slowly drive forward while tipping, that should spread the load out. Watch out for over head cables 20 tonne tippers go a long way up.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:43 pm
by Stuarty
Or, hire a mini digger and a 1 tonne dumper, or power barrow. No point breaking your back tbh

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:38 am
by Teddy
yes mini digger is on hire. Trouble is the driveway has been excavated and although a small area of front section isn't to allow the lorry to reverse between the gates it means there isn't a great distance to spread the load on...
Oh well if it comes to it some will go on the drive and the rest on the road.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:17 pm
by Dave_L
Just don't damage the road.......

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:55 pm
by Stuarty
Make sure you get your 20 tonnes worth, i ordered 8 ton of sharp sand for today, the truck arrived at 11am ( it was requested for first thing ) guy tells me theres 9 tonne in the back. He tips it and you would be lucky if there was 5 ton of sand in it, it was like it was scooped from the bottom of the sea it was that wet. Boss will need to query that when hes back from his hols. Why is it everything that can go wrong does when hes off on his hols and its up to me and another guy to keep the place dodging on

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:03 am
by Dave_L
Did it not arrive with a weighbridge ticket/delivery note indicating the weights?

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:54 am
by IanMelb
Is there a regulation that states how much water is legally allowed, i.e. very wet stuff like stu's is going to have less sand by weight coz some of the mass is water.