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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:27 pm
by lutonlagerlout
any idea what these little beauts are ?
they are defo concrete,but look quite appealing
been down 10 years
cheers LLL
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:48 pm
by mickg
they look like cobbletech but if its been laid for 10 years then I have no idea
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:51 pm
by cookiewales
Brad stone did some years ago
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:51 pm
by msh paving
marshall rialto, was around in 1995 ish, the big joint was filled with limstone dust/chips thats my idea anyway, i had pics once but cant find em now MSH
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:20 am
by lemoncurd1702
Marshalls purchased the Belgian company that manufactured what we know as "Cobbletech".
I believe these were possibly on the continental market long before they reached our shores.
Maybe try a couple of cobbletech samples against them and see if the profile matches.
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:19 am
by Tony McC
They're not Rialto nor it's commercial form, which was Altiro (can you see what they did there?).
It'll bug me for the rest of the morning, but they had a stupid name and something is telling me they were a Stonemarket product. I'll riffle through the back catlogues when I have me dinner.....
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:23 pm
by r896neo
An old incarnation of Bradstones carpet stone?
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:20 pm
by lemoncurd1702
Look at the square base, surely they are a predecessor of cobbletech and must be best bet if you are trying to match.
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:56 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I think lemoncurd has nailed it
they look exactly like cobbletech
the original installation was done with geo-shh
which has vanished into the ether
but
they do look very very good 10 years on
LLL
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:24 am
by Tony McC
Renaissance - that's what they were called, but looking at them now, in the 2007 Stonemarket brochure from back in the day when there was very little stone in their repetoire and they were still heavily focused on wet-cast, they look slightly different to what we're seeing in the image above. They even made the front cover that year, but never really sold well and so they were 'disappeared' shortly after.
The big problem with them, as I recall, was the jointing, and it's uncanny how Cobblyteck has risen, phoenix-like from the ashes now that resin technology has advanced sufficiently to give us a flexible-ish mortar.
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:07 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i dont think that is them boss
they look identical to cobbletech and the lady assures me it was done in 2003
thing is she wants a guaranteed pointing method to replace the geo-shhh and no manufacturer will offer even a 10 year guarantee on its product
i cant guarantee it because i didnt lay the bloomin things!
LLL
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:22 pm
by Tony McC
I know they aren't Raemnaissance - the bases are different, but it was Renaissance I had in mind.
There was another one around that time, but I cannot recall a single thing about them, other than they were ugly. Given that the brochures for CBPs alone take up at least a couple of metres of my library shelving, I can't see me finding the time to root through them all to find the answer.
And a 10 year guarantee? Funny you should mention it but I was talking to a Flemish mortar manufacturer earlier to day and he wants to put a product on the British market offering just that - 10 years warranty as long as installation was done correctly. Note that proviso - that's where I reckon the loophole will be!
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:41 pm
by cookiewales
That's where the loop hole always is
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:53 pm
by lutonlagerlout
well how can you guarantee a drive that is in situ?
its the devil and the deep blue sea
LLL
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:12 am
by lemoncurd1702
Tony McC wrote:I know they aren't Raemnaissance - the bases are different, but it was Renaissance I had in mind.
Tony see my post above. Cobbletech have been manufactured in Belgium for how many years before Marshalls bought them I don't know.
Maybe some how Lll's customer acquired them. Also people's memories are sometimes vague or convenient when it comes to the past 10 years maybe 5.
Lll, maybe Marshalls cobbletech jointing compound would be the best bet. It generally comes with the cobbletech paving so not sure if they sell it as a stand alone product.
A tub covers about 5m2.
Good luck with your customer.