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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:10 pm
by socks101
So Ive had my front garden block paved a few months ago.
One on my neighbours is not happy and complained to the council.
The council have now got back to me saying that I need to install a drain and soakaway at the end to stop rain water going into the drain in the middle of the car park.
I had 4 block paving companies round and not one mentioned any drain to me. I was under the impression block paving was fine, but i've since found out there are 2 types and I have the impermeable paving.
A guy from my councils drainage team has said that he wants it to go along the block paving and path leading to front door and then a soakaway into the grass.
Just wondering how hard this is going to be / rough price and if there's any tips i'm going to need to know.
Drain across is about 3 meters.
Thanks for any help.
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:39 pm
by rimexboy
Welcome fantastic first post well explained and nice big pictures,
What the council is referring to is SUDDS it's on the main site I will have a quick look
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:41 pm
by rimexboy
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:01 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i spy with my little eye no edge restraint on the left hand side as you look from above ???
all you need is 3 linear channels discharging into a bucket of gravel
simon is right,the suds legislation has been in force since 2008 ,its about time they started enforcing it
all of your contractors should have at least told you of the law,then at least you could make an educated decision
cheers LLL
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:05 pm
by rimexboy
Well spotted tony,
Just out of interest who is responsible for suds is it the client or the contractor?
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:28 pm
by Dave_L
Client.
You've got some friendly neighbours round your area, miserable bastards. I'd give the twat a piece of my mind.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:29 pm
by Dave_L
lutonlagerlout wrote:all you need is 3 linear channels discharging into a bucket of gravel
What he said, not a particularly expensive or complicated solution to tick all the boxes.
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:56 pm
by nry
Dave_L wrote:Client.
You've got some friendly neighbours round your area, miserable bastards. I'd give the twat a piece of my mind.
We have similarly nice neighbours
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:05 pm
by dig dug dan
You need to do nothing in fact! I have recently had a huge row with my local authority over this issue, as some pikeys have done some drives without drainage, and when i have asked the council to have a look, they get back to me two weeks later saying" we poured a bottle of water on it and it driained away so clearly no drainage is needed!" I have tested them out on several drives, and each time they come back with the same wooly reply. despite me giving them all the sudds regs and info, they still say they conform. even the environment agency (who are supposed to be against this due to flooding) have said no drainage is needed.
I would encoourage you to fight this. Find other block paved drives and ask if the council is getting them to put drianage in also?
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:20 pm
by socks101
Hi,
Thanks for all your replys , Thats SUDDS guide is very useful.
I have rang the bloke who did it and he knew exactly what the council want before I explained it to him !, not sure why he didn't do it in the first place.
I even got told by another company in the area that he used to work for the council so he should of known the regs, anyway hes going to come back and have a measure up !.
As for the neighbours they are simply jealous as due to how the houses are laid out , we are the only ones that can do it.
Will "3 linear channels discharging into a bucket of gravel" comply with regulations ??
I agree with you about other block paved driveways and lack of drainage, there are loads of newly laid drives i could find and ask the council,
although not sure weather to as I know that awful feeling when the "unauthorized driveway" letter comes through the door , and i wouldn't wish this on anyone (apart from who grassed us up !)
Thanks once again.
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:52 pm
by rimexboy
While your in contact with the contractor, don't forget to say about no kerb fitted between you and your neighbour as pointed out by tony above, as that will probably cause problems later such as moving away
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:00 pm
by rimexboy
Click this link for details about the Edging
Keep us posted
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:21 pm
by Dave_L
I really wouldn't be too worried about the lack of edging kerb to be honest.
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:24 pm
by lutonlagerlout
would you lay tarmac to a free edge dave?
LLL
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:15 pm
by rab1
the edge could be laid on concrete? ???