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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:03 pm
by alagenon
Ok guys I need an idea of what the sq meter cost would be to dig out my driveway ( Tarmac on some sort of slab) and then lay a Marshall cobbletech product.
Total area is 83 sq meters, live in the merseyside area and am trying to find a good contractor and obviously a good price .
Thanks everyone!
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:08 pm
by mickg
I need to see the driveway rather than quoting without seeing what's involved, give us a ring and we will gladly call and see what work you require
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:38 pm
by alagenon
Ok,
I'll give you a call tomorrow to discuss, I've had one quote which was expensive, but in saying that a second quote would tell me if it was,
If you're not available tomorrow I' catch you Monday
Thanks
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:40 pm
by mickg
yeah no problem we are always available 7 days a week
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:22 am
by local patios and driveway
That cobbtech is a damn expensive product. Just had a little look.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:16 am
by cookiewales
alagenon wrote:Ok guys I need an idea of what the sq meter cost would be to dig out my driveway ( Tarmac on some sort of slab) and then lay a Marshall cobbletech product.
Total area is 83 sq meters, live in the merseyside area and am trying to find a good contractor and obviously a good price .
Thanks everyone!
ball park price for reclaimed setts they look the same as cobbletech 
£180 m2 finished job 
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:57 pm
by bobbi o
whats the material only price, per sq.m, for cobbletech ?
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:43 pm
by Nigel Walker
Starting around £43 plus vat per m2 depending on who you get it from
This includes the resin. 3 tubs of resin per 5.46m2 pack.
It takes slightly longer to lay than traditional block paving.
This is more to do with how its packaged and having to carrythe blocks to the paving edge. Cant use a block barrow with these.
Also takes a little bit longer to brush in the resin and then brush it off completely.
It doesnt add loads of time to the job, but slightly more than normal
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:09 pm
by TheVictorianCobbleCo
Dont know what the cobbletech product looks like, but suggesting this as an outside chance. A cobble 110x110x50 or 70mm to your colour choice and of at least 30mPa strength can be made in Cape Town for about GBP8 - 10 a sqm. These would fit in a 6m container. - not sure what that would cost - is this worth persuing? Look at Revelstones website for what's available.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:57 pm
by local patios and driveway
Over 20t in a container starts to get expensive. Thats your biggest issue but looking at shipping costs of about £1000 say plus duty on value and shipping. Im sure steve at london stone would know precisely the deal
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:07 pm
by London Stone Paving
It costs in the region of £1200-£1300 to ship a 27 ton container from India to the UK, so I imagine it would be slightly cheaper from SA. It sounds interesting but you've got invest a lot in product development before you can put anything like that out. Its not our market, as we only sell stone.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:10 pm
by lutonlagerlout
crikey my mate was paying £700 ten years ago India to UK
LLL
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:58 pm
by London Stone Paving
the rates are rock bottom at the moment due to poor economic climate. It went as high as £2500 in 2008 but since then its come down steadily. there is a small increase coming this month but not a lot.
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:19 am
by TheVictorianCobbleCo
London Stone Paving wrote:It costs in the region of £1200-£1300 to ship a 27 ton container from India to the UK, so I imagine it would be slightly cheaper from SA. It sounds interesting but you've got invest a lot in product development before you can put anything like that out. Its not our market, as we only sell stone.
At GBP1300 it would add another 15.6GBP to the cost per sqm, and then add local duties and transport. I know Revelstone have containered to the UK before, and I have many years ago done 9 containers to Australia. Another option is I left cobble moulds with ScottKerb who supplied a batch at about 17GBP per sqm to Kent - I don't know if he is still around. Worth checking?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:11 am
by Tony McC
The problem with all these plans to import is the marketing. No matter how much of a cost saving can be made in the manufacturing, unless there is someone on the ground in Britain actively promoting and pushing the product, it will never sell in sufficient quantities.
Some of the biggest and best suppliers in mainland Europe have tried to ship concrete blocks into Britain because we pay roughly twice as much per square metre as they do on the continent, and not one of them has had what could realistically be termed 'success'. In every case, they have either decided that they can run the operation from their office in the Rhine Valley or wherever, or they've had a single jaded sales bod to cover all of Britain.
A small number have had very limited success by focussing on the SE, say 100 miles of Tilbury or Shoreham, but they don't win the big jobs because there is buggerall tech s'port and they often fizzle out after a few years when the scale of the challenge finally gets through their thick skulls.
Look at how much money has been spent by the Irish tryting to break into the British market...Tobermore, A&G, Kilsaran, BarleyCastle...none of them have had a massive impact, and they have the advantages of a shared history, a similar climate and installation methodology, and the same language, but they really struggle to make significant progress.
Importing concrete often seems like a good idea, but it's takes an iron will, rock-solid determination and very, very deep pockets.