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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:39 am
by ruby rocket
Where i live at the moment we are having regular rain showers i've already dug the site out and pushed around the aggregate should i wait till the weather changes or is it fine to compact the aggregate and screed coarse sand and lay pavers?
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:10 pm
by msh paving
As long is the sub base material is not soggy and water logged carry on, same as sand long as is not soaked carry on MSH
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:03 pm
by Zuhel
Will be finishing my paving next week, while some precipitations are expected nearly every day. What the Gurus would recommend concerning the final jointing and compacting?
Obviously, I should wait until both the blocks and the gaps between are completely dry, but at the current temperatures and weather conditions this waiting might last until the next Easter!
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:05 am
by Tony McC
There is a FAQ regarding working in all sorts of weather
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:59 pm
by Zuhel
FAQ does not provide an answer to my question.
Everybody understands that the kiln dried sand could not be applied during even slightest drizzle, that is obvious.
The question is: what to do if that was no rain, let’s say, for 24 hours, but the block paving is still damp, and the gaps are quite damp as well, which makes the proper jointing impossible, because wet sand will not fill these gaps up properly.
Is it safe to leave the newly laid driveway not jointed and not finally compacted until the weather permits it? For how long? May I start using such unfinished driveway, or it would be better to park my car on the street for a while?
I was even thinking about using some industrial hot air blower to dry the blockwork just before the jointing, but it does not seem to be a good idea.
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:23 pm
by Pablo
Slurry sand the paving. Run the plate over it until it's properly compacted then spread the sand and soak it with a hose until it moves about like a liquid. Brush it about filling the joints as you go starting at the highest point working towards the lowest. Once an area is filled use the hose on a semi rose setting to blow the excess off. You don't need to use Kiln dried for this normal sand will do because it's getting soaked anyway and it'll be much cheaper. It's best to have 2 people on this so the sand is kept properly fluid. Leave it for 24 hrs once done to let the water disperse from the bedding. I've done dozens upon dozens like this and never had a problem I reckon it can actually fill the joints better and leave the paving even more tightly bound it's certainly harder to lift a block thats been done this way than with dry sand.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:57 pm
by DNgroundworks
I agree with Pablo, i have used that method on lots of jobs, ive even used a power washer on a light setting
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:16 pm
by Pablo
DNgroundworks wrote:I agree with Pablo, i have used that method on lots of jobs, ive even used a power washer on a light setting
It works even better with a power washer.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:00 pm
by lutonlagerlout
although we dont get as much rain down here i have used the slurry technique and can confirm its veracity
you have to wack the blocks before you do it though,and keep cars off them for a day or 2 after
LLL
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:58 pm
by Zuhel
Thank you very much, Pablo! Thank you, colleagues!
Great advice!
I am gonna whack the blocks both before and after jointing.
I hope that this advice will be useful for somebody else as well, especially at the rainy seasons.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:50 pm
by lutonlagerlout
WHOA!
you cannot wack them immediately after slurry jointing
you need to wait 24-48 hrs for the water to migrate through the subbase
LLL
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:07 pm
by Zuhel
lutonlagerlout wrote:you need to wait 24-48 hrs for the water to migrate through the subbase
Sure.
Pablo mentioned it a little bit earlier.
Thank you for pointing it out.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:53 pm
by Pablo
There's no need to whack the blocks after they're sanded.