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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:58 pm
by mulan
Hi all,
Fist time posting, and a novice DIYer so please be gentle!

I'm going to be laying new patio in july, I have dug down 8" below damp proof course ready to lay my materials down. Lots and lots of advice for that on this site so I'm feeling quite confident about it. The only issue is the edge to one side of my garden. Next door's garden is higher than mine, about 6" higher than my damp proof course, and their fencing isn't dug into the ground, it stops just shy of the the ground of their garden (so their is nothing to stop the soil from their garden crumbling into mine (other than the fact that it's mainly clay and sticks together well).

My question is, does anyone have any thoughts on what I should use to "wall" up to that level or up to the fence?

And what ever I do put it there, should I put it in before of after the patio?

We are most likely going for an indian limestone, so if it matches even better. Thanks for reading.

Simon

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All thoughts and recommendations appreciated!!

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:33 pm
by lutonlagerlout
you could concrete a row of slabs in vertically
as a slab on edge retainer,or build a low brick wall
best to do it before you lay any slabs on the patio
btw the finish height of your patio neds to be 150mm below dpc
good luck
LLL

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:49 pm
by mulan
Hi,
Thanks for a quick reply, my partner has suggested a three rows of sleepers fixed together, with the first firmly in the ground and possible cemented into place. Would this work?

Thanks
Simon

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:01 pm
by Dave_L
I'd just put a run of 250/300mm backedgers down through there. Simple and effective.

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:08 pm
by mulan
You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but what is a backedger? I've googled it and can't find out what they are.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:32 pm
by Pablo
A backedger is the standard grey concrete retaining edgings that you see used on most new housing developments to a max height of about 400mm. I feel they're a bit utilitarian for gardens unless it's just a very basic one. Just to reiterate what LLL said you've not dug your base deep enough yet the finished height of the paving needs to be 150mm below your DPC so you need to dig down a min of 310mm ish from the dpc depending on your paving. Sleepers would need a retaining post to hold them in place beding and hauchinmg them with concrete won't work and they'll rot quickly to. What are you planning on layingand have you thought about steps and edgings etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:21 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
Why can't you use a bullnose Kerb?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:47 pm
by Mikey_C
Thepinkpavingco wrote:Why can't you use a bullnose Kerb?
aesthetics?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:51 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
Mikey_C wrote:
Thepinkpavingco wrote:Why can't you use a bullnose Kerb?

aesthetics?
Sorry I mean the block paving Kerb units 200x150x100

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:52 pm
by Mikey_C
how about flag on edge in the same flag as the patio, as i did see here

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:55 pm
by Mikey_C
just realised patio is in block paving section, hence a flag on edge won't match.