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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:42 pm
by Dave_L
Picked up a 170m2 paving job - Marshalls Drivesett Tegulas and jumper blocks.
Anyone any experience of laying these in and to what pattern?
Slightly apprehensive but I'm sure it will be OK! Not looking fwd to the back breaking work.
Also, while I'm on - anyone know off the top of their heads how many small/med/large std blocks I should order in for each square metre? I know the BM should know, but there is no mention in the catalogue..........
One last question - Is a block trolley a wise move?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:55 pm
by mickg
>>Is a block trolley a wise move?
no the block trolley cant pick up the tegula blocks unless they band them differently now but it never used to be able to pick them up
I always use a 3 large 2 medium 1 small overall mix
I personally don't like the jumper blocks as it would seem due to pattern spacing and size of blocks you end up with too many blocks with straight lines instead of being either half bond or third bond
Dave thats only 4 days work laying and cutting mate, you will be able to have Friday off 
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:58 pm
by msh paving
I always keep the small blocks to a minium pack quantity,remember there is 3 to 1 ratio off the little one they go on for ever,i would not have anymore than 3 packs of small in that area remember if need be you can always shap a big in half to make a little one but they dont glue together ..., don't let the builders merchant order them in equal amounts they know buggar all about it,Never used the jumper blocks..
i used to have a formula to work out the ratio but miss placed it
maybe dave sarti will be along and he will be the man to know
with bradsone and cemex a block barrow only works on the medium blocks i guess tegulas are the same MSH 
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:15 pm
by Dave_L
There's all the groundworks to do aswell - I reckon it's a week and a halfs work - 2.2m coverslab to go onto a spetic tank, dig off, subase, soakaway, edgers, ACO drainage........and access isn't great either.
Fortunately have got hold of an ex-employee of ours who is a great paver - so he's coming in on a sub-contract basis to lay the blocks, which will be a great help.
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:48 am
by lutonlagerlout
we did a 70 M job in the last 9 days and it took 2 of us that long ???
firstly we had to hand dig because there were telecoms and wiring for over 50 office bods that work in the building
if a digger went through 1 of those it would hurt the old pocket,50 men out of work!!
then the ground was soft
so we had to dig out another 100mm taking it to 300mm
then there was no water nearby so we had to walk 180 m to tap
and yes there was a hydrant,bang in the middle of the main road
plus we had 2 linear drains 6m long and 2 suds soakaways
all by hand
and to cap it off no leccy so a generator for the breaker
the laying and cutting only took 2 days but the groundwork took its toll
mind you we knew this when we priced it, and it was what they wanted
used a block barrow for brett 60mm and it worked fine for me (16 1/2 stone) not so good for my mate (11 1/2 stone)
also used 1 of those water pump gizmos for the stihl
have to say they are the bees knees and only had to refill the 13 litres once every 4 hours cutting
my hamstrings are as tight as a drum now mind
LLL
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:35 am
by local patios and driveway
ive always been supplied tegula at a ratio of 1-2-2. i always assumed that was how marshalls supplied them.
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:36 am
by Dave_L
That sounds like a nightmare job Tony!
Water tanks for the saws are great, always make a point of using mine nowadays. Keep it in the truck, full up so there is just no excuse.
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:40 am
by lutonlagerlout
It was on possibly the busiest road junction in luton,the guy said a lot of contractor turned up ,then drove off
I dont mind doing bad access jobs as long as they are priced accordingly
if we had a digger ,power,water etc ,could have knocked it out in 4 days but hey-ho c'est la vie!
those block barrows save at least 1 mans time per day,think i paid about £36 hire for 2 days
you need someone with a bit of ballast to drive it though :;): :;):
LLL
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:11 am
by mickg
the new style tegula are now banded per leg and the early batches had a full plastic layer where the forks go and would not part even when you tried with a fork lift truck, this plastic layer is now designed to breaks off with each leg so you can use the cart
the old style used to be on a pallet and shrink wrapped but not banded round each leg so you could not pick them up with the block paving cart
you can have the block in any ratio you require but when your laying keep an eye on the ratio as you can soon end up with too many of the wrong size left, I have always used a 3 2 1 ratio as I never lay the tegula with straight lines to the next row plus the larger block will spread the load more than the smaller blocks, when you start laying straight lines there is no bond between the blocks which is not advisable for driveway construction
Dave I was only joking with the time scale
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:16 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
as i only lay yorkstone ,granite kerbs and granite setts every boring day .what are jumper blocks please.
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:42 pm
by mickg
jumper blocks are large tegula blocks 320 x 240
tegula jumper blocks
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:50 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
thnx mick .i imagine you need to lay them with both hands