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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:47 am
by nick65
A loacl council have asked me for a quote to install a new footpath from a car park to a childrens play area.
They've stressed that it needs to be suitable for walking (obviously) cycles, prams and wheelchairs but rough enough to deter skateboarders.
Tamped concrete is to plain and ugly so not an option.
So i was thinking along the lines of block paving with say a 50mm and 60mm block so as to have bands with a 10mm upstand, like sleeping policemen.
Theres also the option of rivened slabs or even tactile paving.
Maybe even resin bound, but they dont want loose aggregates like gravel.
So i'm open to suggestions if any of you no of the ideal anti skateboard path.
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:08 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
hi ,how long is path approx
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:10 pm
by nick65
The full length of the local football pitch, so around 120m.
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:50 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
hi,you could lay any paving on the path and every so many courses lay say two rows of tactile .i.e so the skate boarder wont bother as he only has a small area to skate then stop ,then carry on again ,then stop etc.tactiles are 400x400.so work path 1.210 wide or double or triple it etc depending on width u require.3 tactiles wide and 2 x 600 x 600.gl spoilsport :laugh:
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:51 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
phone specialpaving.com for ideas too .website for phonenumber
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:17 am
by carlbeardsmore
Talking to a guy I work with who is a keen skateboarder, the worst thing to skate on is setts or cobbles. The next think is block paving with chamfers on the blocks.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:26 pm
by nick65
Thanks for the feedback chaps. Ive done a bit of trawling through the various product brochures in the office, and found numerous options of the tactile variety.
Because the project is for a parish council there will be a limited budget. so i shall endeavor to give the best value for money i can.
The length is going to be between 120m and 150m depending on the route taken.
I now need to find out if i can have the path 1m in width or weather it will fall under national spec, and so be 1.5m in width to allow for wheelchairs.
This will make a big difference to the cost. So the two most likely options will be either tarmac or block pave with cycleway or barface tactiles or something simillar at regular intervals.
I shall run the gravel path option over them so they can see the price difference. The money they save will be ample for a biannual topup.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:08 pm
by simeonronacrete
Hi there
Why not consider Ronadeck Resin Bound Surfacing? You wouldn't have any loose gravel - that's more likely with Resin Bonded (which we also do).
And if your surface needs to be SuDS compliant, Ronadeck Resin Bound Surfacing will help you achieve that too.
Call us if we can help.
Regards
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:38 pm
by nick65
Hi Simeon,
thanks for the advice on resin bound. I had this option on my original short list as i have a few samples in 100mm x 100mm trays. I only have samples of the 6mm medium textured general use variety. This i believe is fine for pedestrian and light vehichular use.
But i think by the samples i have here that id need i slightly rougher texture to deter the skate boarders.
Also i have little experience in this kind of surface. So i would either book in to do the course or hire someone in to advise. Two of my men have experience in it. But im one of those who needs to know himself before setting off.
Plus theres a slow but steady growing demand for it round here, so its something i need to get onto.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:21 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i know this sunds a bit naff but why not concrete an aluminum scaffold pole in every 4 metres at intervals in the block paving
the speed they go at 4 M is less than a second but foir pedestrians or prams it would be ok
just a thought
LLL 
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:46 pm
by simeonronacrete
Hi Nick
Judging by our sales of resin bound surfacing, there is definitely an increase in interest and demand.
Please call us when you're ready.
Regards
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:24 am
by Wills gardens
as a skater, blocks suck to roll over so standard paving would stop it, but maybe throw in some ribs across the path to deter them
Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:47 pm
by GB_Groundworks
in this modern world of litigation isn't putting in trip hazards a risky business?
something like a tumbled block or set should deter them, plus most skate kids i know don't really skate up and down plain paths its more stuff they can jump on and grind like eggings or steps etc.
in sheffield now we have a skate/bmx park in nearly every park.