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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:58 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i priced up an 80 m2 drive today,bearing in mind the new regulations (drawing from the gaffer) anyway the client wants marshalls drivesett duo cottswold/heather and the drive has to take his 2.5 tone jeep so we have gone for extra subbase and stronger concrete
anyway bearing in mind the blocks are £21.45 per M +vat and there is 150 mm of subbase ,the whole thing has come out at a shade under £100 per metre ???
what has wacked it up is the price of the drainage stuff
the high load aqua cells are £47.50 each + vat,terram,shingle, 12 acos ,2 sump acos,15m of 110mm pipe plus fittings, .5m3 of c20 concrete ,plus obviously dig out 1.8m3 and muck away i reckon this 1.5m3 soakaway will cost about a grand!!
so for this job at least the new regulations have added 15% to the price
£50 a crate seems a lot for these crates but what choice do you have (especially when you need 6)
exasperated LLL
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:06 pm
by Dave_L
...........and there's you pricing/doing the job properly - bet ya ten to the dozen someone else will do the job and leave out the drainage......you wait.
"Buyer" beware - as retro-installing the drainage will be a no-no.....rip it up and start again.....
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:07 pm
by Dave_L
lutonlagerlout wrote:so for this job at least the new regulations have added 15% to the price
Doesn't suprise me one bit. And when it's all done, what will the customer see for his money? A line of acos and that's about it. That's the trouble with our work - most of it is hidden!
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:05 pm
by GB_Groundworks
now i'm not suggesting people use them but there could be a business in recycling old beer crates into aqua cell systems haha
i priced a septic system with the heavy duty aqua cells, soak away was 4m3 and the job went to a guy who dug a hole and filled it with hardcore, telling the client it was just as good. theres no telling some people.
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:16 pm
by Mikey_C
£50 a crate seems a bit pricey, some time age I only paid £30 inc vat, from Keyline. Is your customer aware of the recent changes to the legalization, i.e. they didn't start the drive way before the 1st of October, even if it was one tree shrub removed/one shovel of dirt :;):
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:01 am
by lutonlagerlout
hes a professional type of guy and would rather it had drainage,
looking at 3 loads muck away thats £750+vat
LLL
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:38 pm
by Dave_L
Mikey_C wrote:£50 a crate seems a bit pricey, some time age I only paid £30 inc vat, from Keyline.
Depends on the quantity you're buying though.
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:40 pm
by Dave_L
I'll price up the Aquacells at Keyline next time I'm in there. I know the retail for the blue ones are something around £80 each!
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:47 pm
by Mikey_C
ignore my keyline recommend as it can be seen here after a previous recommend, back in may, the blue ones were £52 inc vat
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:26 pm
by Tony McC
How the feck do they justify fifty quid for a kilo of plastic? I get more placky with the free gift taped to the front of the Beano every week than there is in one of the storm crates!
I had hoped (naively, perhaps) that increased demand for storm crates would bring the price down to something more realistic, but that just doesn't seem to be happening. What would you say was a fair price for a 0.25 cubic metre crate (500x500x1000mm)? I reckon 20 quid would allow somewhere around 19 quid profit to be shared between the greedy manufacturers and the even greedier BMs.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:08 am
by lutonlagerlout
thing is you mostly see them with fork truck drivers sitting on them smoking fags
£20-30 is justifiable ,a mate use to work for a largish BM and reckoned stuff like that they just doubled their incoming price,overheads of course to consider
£50 a crate is a liberty!
LLL
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:18 pm
by Mikey_C
the only possible justification I can think they could come up with, is the rise in oil prices as I am guessing the plastic is made of mostly oil and the lorry that delivers them is having to drive around carrying a large bulk of what is mainly fresh air.
However, its nice to know that something in my garage is finally going up in price rather than just taking up space! 