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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:00 pm
by James.Q
had a firm quoting for same job.
88 m2 blockpaving
35 lm kl kerbs
5 lm acco
1 recessed man hole.
existing surface tarmac with pcc edge
price to include all excavation blah blah blah
they have quoted 3k how? 
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:21 pm
by bigee
first post alert!!! (although been browsing for a while....)
to be blunt,this cannot be done for that price...at least no legal way i know of.
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:36 pm
by dig dug dan
the words pikey, illegal dumping and bodge spring to mind
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:52 pm
by James.Q
true this is a nice estate that i was trying to get into so i priced job under my normal rates. this firm has already done one job on there on the surface looks ok. apart that it looks like they over laid the blocks then cut through then fitted kl after. so quite a few small cuts. try as i might cannot get near this price for a good job. even using cheep shxt materials. ah well sod it customer seems like a decent bloke but i never bad mouth other firms. you never know he might own his own paving plant hardcore tip and only work for the fun of it :p
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:25 pm
by Rich H
James.Q wrote:had a firm quoting for same job.
88 m2 blockpaving
35 lm kl kerbs
5 lm acco
1 recessed man hole.
existing surface tarmac with pcc edge
price to include all excavation blah blah blah
they have quoted 3k how?
88 m2 50mm standard brindle = 9 packs at £146/pack (retail) = £1316
18t MOT = £360 (at least, these days)
3 x muckaways = £700
Digger/roller/cutter/etc.
Edging
Kerbs
Recessed IC
Cuts
Sanding
Labour must be free!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:04 am
by lutonlagerlout
cant be done,i would be looking for 5.5k for this job
they gotta be cutting corners there mate
LLL
£35 a m2? not a chance ???
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:00 pm
by surreyhillslandscapes.com
To cheap, I would be looking for at least 5-6 k
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:43 pm
by James.Q
i think they must have under measured big time they have done a job on same estate and charged 9k for 190 mtr = £47 a mtr. but found out they dont use sharp sand. from what i could make out it sounds like they under dig then lay on a mix of cement and grano :rock: :p like i said the finish looks ok but how long for id hate to guess.
tbh id gone all the way down to 4200
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:03 pm
by lutonlagerlout
plus james as you know you cannot cut blocks in situ they get pressed down
refer the client to this site
sounds bad
LLL
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:16 pm
by Pablo
James they would be doing you favour not going for your quote at £4200. Way too cheap. I sometimes get the sh~ts with other quotes wondering how they can be so cheap and questioning my own pricing but I always stick to my guns and don't budge. A few months ago someone beat me by 2 grand on a 6 grand job turns out he has no employees and isn't vat registered. His work is good but he's been on the job for 4 weeks now I drive by it most days we would have taken 4-5 days and the punter is still parking on the road. Some people do this stuff for a hobby no other explanation. In situ cutting isn't always bad practise we sometimes do it in certain situations and it gives a very quick clean and if done right strong finish with or without kerbing.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:31 pm
by J.D
Got to be arround £60 to £70 per square m . without seeing the job . Good luck to the bloke if he goes for it especialy if he pays a deposit up front !!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:38 pm
by James.Q
i know too cheap at 4200 but the job is only a few streets away trying to stay as local as pos. its nice to get home early and see kids. on site i tend to do 5 days plus supply and lay price work over the weekend. thats why i was only trying to make a wage.
still got site work on going but trying to stay off as much as pos and just cherry pic the work i want to do 
In situ cutting isn't always bad practise we sometimes do it in certain situations and it gives a very quick clean and if done right strong finish with or without kerbing.
me aswell like i said his finish does look ok
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:03 am
by lutonlagerlout
when is it good to cut in situ pablo?
i tried it a few times,but wasn't impressed
LLL ???
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:48 pm
by Pablo
We do it mainly for circles or to cut your trim into a wall or kerb or curve. Most paving we do has some kind of contrasting trim or a soldier or header course at the least. It is so quick and neat and accurate if done right. A 2m tegula circle would take around 30mins for full installation. I use it a lot for flags as well. I've never found that the brick sinks in fact there is no movement at all. We do 2 passes of the base with the plate before laying. Give me a PM if you want a better description.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:07 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i go for at least 3-4 passes on the sand ,how can you cut circles freehand with a 300mm blade ? like i say i tried it but didnt work for me 
cutting the edge and putting the kerbs in after to my mind is a waste of time on drives anyway,patios yes but drives ?
i tend to use a 100mm diamond blade for internal cuts on circles ,the stihl blade is too big .
maybe our grit sand is a poorer composition your pablo? ours is a yellow colour and not that sharp really
i know in the nw they have red sand??
LLL
