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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:48 pm
by cookiewales
LOOKING TO PASS ON MY SKILLS IN NATURAL STONE PAVING
Having been involved in natural stone paving and brickwork for 42 years have decided to make a career move into hands on supervision and teaching the dark arts of paving.which there should be none.i believe working along side some one you pick the trade up far quicker .the advantage i teach them on your projects so you are still earning and your operatives will have a better skill sett am happy to travel or if there is a forward thinking firm i would travel and be there hands on supervisor let me know what you think good or bad. There would be no conflict of interest if i find a permanent position original stone paving will be shut down all future enquiries and i do have a good client list will go through my new employer looking forward to some feedback cookie 07968582231please pass on to anyone you know my skills may help
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:18 pm
by lutonlagerlout
that sounds like a great Idea cookie
there isnt a paving outfit in the country that wouldnt be hurt by come cookie input
all the best
LLL
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:35 pm
by digerjones
Sounds like a good idea, I pondered on something similar a few years ago. I thought about approaching my local agricultural collage to see they were interested in something like your offering but with groundwork being the trade.
Trouble was the pay was not going to be great and I could see myself doing jobs on the side.
You have alot to offer.
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:45 pm
by RAPressureWashing
Cookie
Why don't you start a training course of some sort? as in a class room type of environment for day one then day 2 have a hands on demo type set-up? you'd need premises of some sort I guess, but this could be a good earner for you, as I know people that do course's in sealing etc and costs are around £300.00 + per course (2 day) per person, average 10 per course. Just a thought.
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:17 pm
by lutonlagerlout
yeah my sister in law does manual handling courses for carers and she can earn ££££ a day (but not every day)
cant see cookie in a mortar board and gown though :;):
cheers LLL
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:00 pm
by cookiewales
lutonlagerlout wrote:yeah my sister in law does manual handling courses for carers and she can earn ££££ a day (but not every day)
cant see cookie in a mortar board and gown though :;):
cheers LLL
like that one lll roger the theory side is fine but hands on gets them up to speed quicker and there boss is still earning 
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:11 pm
by sy76uk
You've got a good idea there Cookie. My Dad should do the same thing as he's still banging down on average 100m2 per day on a price at 60.
I'm going back to collage next year to do a course in garden design and the plan is to turn my business into design and build.
Hopefully by the time I'm 50 I'll be up off my knees and in front of an easle lol.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:16 pm
by cookiewales
sy76uk wrote:You've got a good idea there Cookie. My Dad should do the same thing as he's still banging down on average 100m2 per day on a price at 60.
I'm going back to collage next year to do a course in garden design and the plan is to turn my business into design and build.
Hopefully by the time I'm 50 I'll be up off my knees and in front of an easle lol.
i am 58 this year still banging them down am trying to slow my self down to live longer :p
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:53 pm
by DempseyLiverpool
Have you not got anyone to work for you and keep The Original Stone Paving Co going Cookie ?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:17 pm
by mickg
have you contacted any paving/landscaping companies to see if they would be interested in your services Cookie, at least it would give you feedback on whether business owners think onsite training would be beneficial and would pay what you require to make it financial viable
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:38 pm
by cookiewales
mickg wrote:have you contacted any paving/landscaping companies to see if they would be interested in your services Cookie, at least it would give you feedback on whether business owners think onsite training would be beneficial and would pay what you require to make it financial viable
Am speaking to a few mickg just trying to put a package together ash no it's just me if I get the right offer will shut it down
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:41 pm
by mickg
no more little John Cookie ?
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:12 am
by lutonlagerlout
this is the dilemma we all face at one point
I have trained up 2 bricklayers from 16/ scratch
they both got to their mid twenties and both are now doing their own thing
so if you pass on everything you can , and they are clued up ,they go off to do it themselves
the ones that stay need permanent supervision
the phone will probably ring tomorrow cookie and you will be knee deep in setts within days
LLL
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:12 am
by GB_Groundworks
just finished a load of risk assessments, i think you might struggle unless you can get with a large firm
but are there any large firms doing sett stone work?
most big construction firms nowadays are simply managers and manage sub contractors on the lowest price using eastern european masons etc
a small 5 man company isnt going to be able to afford to pay you to teach and supervise on a similar rate to youd be on laying untill they are wining the big jobs, i appreciate that you say youd direct the work to them but unless they are set up to go national it is harder to do,
you might be better getting your own lads set up as a good team if possible?
im having issues with my 25 yr old assistant who is a joiner just doesnt have the work ethic or get the little detail or the extra yard that make the difference i have to spoon feed him what to do, hoping to find a young lad and give him an education in everything form landscaping through all construction, groundworks,(proper machine operating as well not just playing on a mini) equestrian etc theres so much iv learnt over last 10 years i can pass on but then likely training my competition
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:31 am
by mickg
If I got the right offer I would shut down too Cookie but due to our knowledge and skill no one is going to pay what we are worth that's for sure hence why we work for ourselves, its a hard call Cookie, I am also heading to 58 too in a few months time but its head down and look busy I'm afraid until they put me in a box
Its not easy getting a good set of lads working local Giles let alone on a national scale ....!
No loyalty these days you teach people your tricks and they take that knowledge away with them plus the paperwork is more important than the job now