The Brew Cabin

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:45 pm**

replaceing my kitchen at the mo and my plumbing isnt the best are push fit connections really as good as they seam ?

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:47 pm**

Pretty much so, yes. Not my cup of tea, I like a nice mechanical soldered joint, myself.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:00 pm**

My mate and I spent a whole day trying to solder a pipe join under his sink, but it wouldnt work as we couldnt fully shut off the water. Brought a push fit, job done in minutes. Much simpler michael!

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:05 pm**

they work well for water
make sure any existing pipes are clean i.e. no paint
also do not use on a pressurised system
someone i know very well did this as a favour and flooded the whole downstairs of a police officers house
someone very close to me now

no more plumbing for me
LLL

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:09 pm**

If you're using the plastic pipe too make sure you don't forget the inserts.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:44 pm**

i only want to use them for the sink ive got to move it a foot or so the ones ive seen in screwfix say they can be used on a pressurised system .....

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:50 pm**

Hep20 is a good make to use, the fittings seem better quality than the Speedfit.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:14 pm**

John Guest is reccomended too.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:37 pm**

michaelthegardener wrote:i only want to use them for the sink ive got to move it a foot or so the ones ive seen in screwfix say they can be used on a pressurised system .....

Its usually tested to 10 bar but water runs on a 3 bar system, so it will be a pressurised system to some extent. I think LLL means an underfloor heating affair.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:44 pm**

no i mean pressurised like as in a combi boiler
I can vouch that a stop end i put on (doing a favour because the plumber never showed) popped off during the night
I'd be happy with them on hot and cold water feeds,just not on the heating loop
LLL

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:49 pm**

lutonlagerlout wrote:no i mean pressurised like as in a combi boiler
I can vouch that a stop end i put on (doing a favour because the plumber never showed) popped off during the night
I'd be happy with them on hot and cold water feeds,just not on the heating loop
LLL

Ive got a couple of stop ends on my combi system, was for a towel rail I never put in..............4 years ago :;):
The combi system only pressurised to 2 bar at best. What you have to remember with speed fit, is to pull out the little gadget on the end and once engaged, give the pipe a yank backwards. This is why they pressurise it to 10 bar when testing, firstly it gives the joints a good thorough testing and secondly, it pulls the pipes snug.

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:52 pm**

I've used Hep2o without any problem.
Just don't stick you finger down a coupling or you may never get it back out!

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:33 am**

sorry i should have clarified
i mean onto old existing painted copper pipes
it failed on me in less than 12 hours
LLL

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:24 am**

In my last house i had two push fit joints fail and cause flooding. If you lose pressure behind the fitting they can simply come lose as they are held toght by the water pressure. In my mind its just as easy to to use yorkshire fittings and do the job properly. A little bit of youtube study will teach you all you need to know how to solder.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:02 am**

speed fit are fine ive used them befor no probas at all, but as said if going onto old pipe make sure the old pipe is nice and clean and as already said dont forget the inserts inside the plastic pipe, easy to do and simple for someone like me lol

ps dont forget to put an isolation vaulve in too you may need to isolate one tap at some point in the future...

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