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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:54 pm
by Pablo
probably not PC to have a dig at the another forum but after seeing a few comments about it recently I've just spent a while having a look through it's threads and all I can say is god help anyone contracting some of it's members. At least half the advice on it is total sh#te and dealt out by bob a jobbers and chancers who've no real idea of what they're doing but still call themselves landscapers. Also I feel that this industry is under represented by women (to it's detriment) but so many of those so called designers are just part timers who really shouldn't have given up the day jobs they're clueless. It's not a problem confined to that site though I've met so many of them over the years who seem like they liked the idea of it and thought it was going to be easy and a good few of them are probably in the same vein as interior designers. I'm sure there are plenty of decent pro's on there but they really need to start gripping the idiots and telling them to shut up and giving definative answers and pointers. There's a so called landscaper on there who works in London doing medium sized work who last week wasn't aware of Suds legislation and was thinking about laying sandstone on sand with grit pointing as a work around because he'd already stoned up and people are being nice to the f#cking tw#t he's also contracted a subbie to build a wall that's fallen over but doesn't realise that it's his responsibility to ensure the subbie was doing it right in the first place and people are still be f#cking nice to him he needs run out of town and shot FFS. This is one of many posts on there I've been a lurker for a while but never had a good look anyone wanting a laugh should start a few trolls just to see how bad the advice can be from one of those designers. It's not easy to navigate either. Was I having a rant just then? :p :p :p ???
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:56 am
by mickg
I have been doing that for over 12 months Pablo 
I go on chat and say I am thinking of starting doing grass cutting because you lot make it sound so easy and is the B & Q plastic lawn mower any good with the 10 metre flex just to wind the grass cutters up - cutting grass not quite rocket science now is it ???
I don't want to pass any other adverse comments as I have met quite a few members who are very good at their job I must add, last year 12 of us met up in Warwickshire to have a look round an award winning garden what Dave Sewell from The Garden Makers had constructed and the workmanship was absolutely outstanding and I mean outstanding with 5mm joints on all the paving and going to the trouble of laying the yorkstone then scutching the riven high spots off
Also attended the creating landscapes show last October organised by Phil from Landscape Juice and sponsored by Marshalls
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:21 am
by lutonlagerlout
the 2 threads that stuck out in my mind
were
1 a guy got paid £250(ish) by tescos for weedkilling a car park
basically he was being bombarded by the grass cutters as being a thieving barsteward .giving them a bad name for earning £200 in 3-4 hours work
nobody really stuck up and said "its a business" and any that hinted at that were shot down
2 the second was a thread about a poor woman who had had a shoddy retaining wall built by pikeys,that had fell down
anyway this clown was calling for donations of time and money to rebuild it(in sleepers IIRC)
but what he propsed doing although maybe worthy was more dangerous and unstable than what the gippos had done
again the grass cutter started ganging up on any one who questioned the technical aspect of what he was proposing
IIRC kerry jackson does some nice work and 3-5 others were very good,but the chancers are given way too much leeway
I had aspirations of doing landscaping as a teenager, but the cards didnt fall that way for me
i expect they take the peesh out of us and call us blockpaving monkeys :laugh:
LLL
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:45 am
by mickg
yeah the sleeper wall job - the height from top to bottom of that rear garden must of been well over 50' if not 60' all held together with 50 x 50 metal brackets with sleepers laid vertical to hold all that weight back - words fail on how that was constructed
Kerry does some outstanding work indeed, I have met him a few times last one in Birmingham a few weeks ago, a great guy
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:24 am
by michaelthegardener
mickg wrote:cutting grass not quite rocket science now is it ???
its not as easy as you think some times you know :;):
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:10 am
by Carberry
Pablo wrote:probably not PC to have a dig at the another forum but after seeing a few comments about it recently I've just spent a while having a look through it's threads and all I can say is god help anyone contracting some of it's members. At least half the advice on it is total sh#te and dealt out by bob a jobbers and chancers who've no real idea of what they're doing but still call themselves landscapers. Also I feel that this industry is under represented by women (to it's detriment) but so many of those so called designers are just part timers who really shouldn't have given up the day jobs they're clueless. It's not a problem confined to that site though I've met so many of them over the years who seem like they liked the idea of it and thought it was going to be easy and a good few of them are probably in the same vein as interior designers. I'm sure there are plenty of decent pro's on there but they really need to start gripping the idiots and telling them to shut up and giving definative answers and pointers. There's a so called landscaper on there who works in London doing medium sized work who last week wasn't aware of Suds legislation and was thinking about laying sandstone on sand with grit pointing as a work around because he'd already stoned up and people are being nice to the f#cking tw#t he's also contracted a subbie to build a wall that's fallen over but doesn't realise that it's his responsibility to ensure the subbie was doing it right in the first place and people are still be f#cking nice to him he needs run out of town and shot FFS. This is one of many posts on there I've been a lurker for a while but never had a good look anyone wanting a laugh should start a few trolls just to see how bad the advice can be from one of those designers. It's not easy to navigate either. Was I having a rant just then? :p :p :p ???
When I saw the thread about that wall I had an... is this real life? moment.
The site is difficult to navigate.
Very few there have any clue at all about hard landscaping.
The grass cutters who make out that what they're doing is rocket science always make me giggle.
I've seen a few threads started by grass cutters moaning about dog crap too. Walking off job because owner won't pick it up, instead of picking it up themselves and billing the owner. They then come on forum to cry about it and everyone pats them on the back for standing up to the big bad customer.
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:32 am
by carlbeardsmore
Can anybody post a link to these two great threads? I tried to look for them on the site but I could not find them.
The search function did not find them ethier.
Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:50 pm
by mickg
its because the member who built the sleeper wall left the forum and deleted all his posts
Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 11:56 pm
by carlbeardsmore
Cheers Mick, no wonder I could not find them.
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:05 pm
by dig dug dan
I joined years ago, went on a few times and posted an answer to a problem with a digger. That was it. Its rubbish to say the least!