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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:03 pm
by lutonlagerlout
latest footballer gone bad story
this whole story doesnt seem right to me
the girl went back to a hotel with his best mate after a night out on the town,his mate then texts him etc etc
I have seen similar on stag dos abroad and i think it is a sticky situation
as a husband,father ,brother, and son, to women who i love, rape is a horrific crime
but what happened here was not really in anyway similar to some perv hiding in a bushwith a mask and knife
i read somewhere that in 99% of cases where women think there drink has been spiked ,the cause of their amnesia is excess alchohol
england stayed at the chiltern hotel in luton before an away game back in the early 90s,all the local girls were on them like a rash and i believe it was only 1 or 2 that went to bed alone that night
IMHO he is guilty of being a typical footballer
LLL
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:13 pm
by Carberry
lutonlagerlout wrote:latest footballer gone bad story
this whole story doesnt seem right to me
the girl went back to a hotel with his best mate after a night out on the town,his mate then texts him etc etc
I have seen similar on stag dos abroad and i think it is a sticky situation
as a husband,father ,brother, and son, to women who i love, rape is a horrific crime
but what happened here was not really in anyway similar to some perv hiding in a bushwith a mask and knife
i read somewhere that in 99% of cases where women think there drink has been spiked ,the cause of their amnesia is excess alchohol
england stayed at the chiltern hotel in luton before an away game back in the early 90s,all the local girls were on them like a rash and i believe it was only 1 or 2 that went to bed alone that night
IMHO he is guilty of being a typical footballer
LLL
Most men are guilty of rape it seems
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:14 am
by seanandruby
To me it's another case of a footballers arrogance. They think they are above us mere mortals and so do what they want. He should of been a gentleman and put the girl in a taxi and sent her home. How dare he text his mate and invite him around as if the girl was a toy to be used hilst two others were peeping toms....pervs'. We all know the rules of chatting a woman up and how far to go, i think he's a nonce and hope it sends a message to those underworked, overpaid frauds.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:29 am
by lutonlagerlout
sean I have seen similar in benidorm and magaluf with british stag partys,the whole scenario is not my cup of tea
but stupid,arrogant,ignorant and immoral yes
is he a nonce?
i dont think so
if he got a 5 then surely his mate must be as culpable for inviting him round to have a go
its sickening from the girl's perspective but where were her friends she surely went out with?
LLL
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:49 am
by seanandruby
I can't agree with you on this issue. I'm not the judge' or jury, he has been found guilty and really we shouldn't be having this debate. you can't surely back someone who has been done for rape LLL. These guys are a bunch of narcissistic bastards. I have a granddaughter just coming up to that age, and you would be comfortable for her to be taken back to a egotistical, lowlife's hotel and be subjected to an ordeal like that, where the other option would be to put her in a taxi and send her home. And carberry i don't think you should tar us men with the same brush, we haven't all been "guilty of rape." Some of us know how to treat and respect the fairer sex. I find this debate of grading rape very distasteful.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:20 am
by GB_Groundworks
I'm with Sean on this, if she too drunk to consent they get her home or leave her be in the hotel room, girls says no its no.
My new girlfriend works for the police and not only does she have to deal with all these horrendous cases, one she's got at mo 45 yr old male hairdresser 40 counts of raping a down syndrome boy from 12-18. She also avoided an attack on her dog walking field because her dog took a disliking to the guy following her he later raped a girl at knife point. He's just got 10 years eastern European who served life for murdering his wife in Estonia...
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:44 am
by lutonlagerlout
I am not backing him in any way
what i am saying is where were her friends?
you know the ones she went out with
can any man here can say hand on heart he has never slept with a drunk woman ,who may have had second thoughts if she had been sober?
I have dropped off paraletic women in taxis and they start puking in the cab ,screaming and all sorts
I know way too many men get away with rape but to my mind in this case either both or none are guilty
and her friends should hang their heads in shame
LLL
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:14 am
by Carberry
Not condoning rape in any way. I'm just saying, what man hasn't had sex with a drunk woman?
Not my thing sleeping with a girl who is wasted, i've never done it, never will. I have had a few opportunities though. When I was in Brazil my brother pulled this girl, she was basically w*nking him off in the club, when we left she was so drunk she was arguing with the bouncers because it was closing time, she turned around and snogged me thinking I was him. My brother said he went back to her place, played with her tits a bit then got up and left because she was wasted.
According to this ruling he would have been guilty of sexual assault, despite her jerking him off in the club when she was compos mentis.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:01 pm
by lutonlagerlout
my thoughts stewart, kind of
the reason we debate these things Sean is that they are provocative issues.
same as with the abu quatada and all the other bad news
LLL
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:55 pm
by haggistini
Beer has helped ugly people have sex for years..... Boys thinking they are men egging each other on is bad I was brought up to look after women but have been in many a drunken woman's bed!! some you would rather gnaw your arm off than wake it up...Ooh I've banged some right fooking mingers in my time!
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:59 pm
by haggistini
And some stunners .....honest!
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:46 pm
by lutonlagerlout
That is kind of my point haggi
LLL
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:42 pm
by seanandruby
haggistini wrote:Beer has helped ugly people have sex for years..... Boys thinking they are men egging each other on is bad I was brought up to look after women but have been in many a drunken woman's bed!! some you would rather gnaw your arm off than wake it up...Ooh I've banged some right fooking mingers in my time!
Consenting "mingers" tho' i would imagine
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:47 pm
by GB_Groundworks
Actually laughed out loud reading that haggi had to read most the thread now to the mrs to explain my eractic laughter
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:48 pm
by Carberry
seanandruby wrote:haggistini wrote:Beer has helped ugly people have sex for years..... Boys thinking they are men egging each other on is bad I was brought up to look after women but have been in many a drunken woman's bed!! some you would rather gnaw your arm off than wake it up...Ooh I've banged some right fooking mingers in my time!
Consenting "mingers" tho' i would imagine
Yeah, they mooed their consent :laugh: