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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:41 pm
by cookiewales
i now work for a ltd company ie the original stone paving company ltd so all sites i work on are no smoking in the work place which i have to say i agree.but lost a good man to the weed today still life must go on 
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:49 pm
by DNgroundworks
Why does being LTD mean you cant smoke on site?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:54 pm
by cookiewales
DNgroundworks wrote:Why does being LTD mean you cant smoke on site?
as a employer you have to provide a safe everoment to work in ie smoke free you are liable to big fines if caught out or reported
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:01 pm
by local patios and driveway
Yep, no more stuff in the cab of the van either, plus the responsibilty of workplace manslaughter etc. ltd status isnt all roses, much more responsibilty
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:15 pm
by DNgroundworks
surely its down to individual company policy the smoking thing, i subcontracted to a civils company who employ 100 plus lads we all smoked on site? There company policy allowed it? I understand not smoking in the van
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:55 pm
by lutonlagerlout
smoking is a sticky one
i spoke to a copper and he said they have better things to do than enforce no smoking in work vehicles
big sites its designated areas only/if any
never heard about the limited company thing as I have been a limited company for 18 years
but it looks unprofessional,is dirty,and unhealthy
we only have 2 smokers now out of 8 subbies and they have to smoke in their vans in their own times
hate seeing dog butts on jobs
LLL
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:29 am
by London Stone Paving
Not nice cook, i packed em in recently my old man smokes like a chimmney. It is becoming more and more unnaceptable to smoke, its a mugs game.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:33 am
by London Stone Paving
cookiewales wrote:as a employer you have to provide a safe everoment to work in
surely those mountains of scram that you and haggi devour are flouting health and safety laws. You need a risk assesment in manual handling to carry the plates to the table 
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:35 pm
by haggistini
cookiewales wrote:lost a good man to the weed today still life must go on
i havent died........Yet!
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:56 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I am not keen on smoking at work ,but smoking outdoors can hardly be classified as a health issue?
the lungfuls of diesel fumes from mixers and dumpers must be nearly as bad,also bending over 12 hours a day laying the big ones could hardly be described as pilates?
cheers LLL
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:44 pm
by rab1
H/S issue at work my arse, if your working outside and for a client that allows smoking on their land then its happy days for the smoker. As an employer you only have to allow "as per company policy allow smoking in employees own time". IE lunch breaks etc :O
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:21 pm
by GB_Groundworks
on our last big job for my dads company we had a no smoking in the building policy, this started when roof went on and in the brew cabin, lads could smoke out side the brew cabin or in the cement shipping container in the rain, but my dads a big anti smoker anyway
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:27 pm
by cookiewales
rab1 wrote:H/S issue at work my arse, if your working outside and for a client that allows smoking on their land then its happy days for the smoker. As an employer you only have to allow "as per company policy allow smoking in employees own time". IE lunch breaks etc :O
what happens when you get sued for allowing some one to catch cancer when working for you could be in twenty years time you have to by law keep copys of all liablity insurance for thirty years the no win no fee mob will wise up to it just like white finger exept that does not kill you ???
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:45 pm
by cookiewales
ps only started this post because the good man haggi wants to carry on smoking instead of working in a smoke free enviroment and you have to start somewhere i have had a no smoking policy for years let it lapse now my chest is tearing when i get a whiff of passive smoke plus i want to live longer to enjoy my 7 month old son ieuan