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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:18 pm
by henpecked
Hi Guys
Just a question. When we used to build window bays, they had stonking great steels in the corners. As our house is 80 years old, they obviously did things a little different back then.
~Ive just shelled out for new windows (to the tune of 7.5k, dont ask :;): )
Now the guy had a bit of a night mare with the upper bay , bashed it about at bit. Ive come home today and hes finished the bottom bay, on inspection theres a crack running down the inside of the upper LHS of the bedroom bay. (this is to go along with the tiles hes smashed off the bay-which he reckons he will replace)
just wanted to ask, is this serious? Whats holding the bay 'on' (as the windows are holding it 'up')
The crack runs from top to bottom (3ft-ish) and is about 4mm
What can I do to rectify this before it drops off :laugh:
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:24 pm
by rab1
on a bay window of that age the old window frames were holding it up, hence the problems with the new windows.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:30 pm
by flowjoe
We do a fair bit of subsidence investigation works and the supposed subsidence cracks are often down to a window fitter thrashing in a new plastic frame 
Worth getting it checked though, especially if there are internal cracks as well.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:40 pm
by henpecked
Thanks guys, had a gander at a few other forums and laid my mind to rest. They said 'if you can see daylight, then worry' 
Just a bit peeved at sheling out then having to do remedials to make good. Found out he'd used filler and bricks under the cill too.
Im going to stop now or I'll be swinging out of his throat tomorrow :laugh: :laugh:
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:27 pm
by andpartington
bays are nightmare you have to know where to cut them !! lots of nails 
its fairly normal for a hairline crack on the inside or every time i have helped a mate fit (hes been in the game 10 odd years) we have had one
he should have warned you of this
why did he have to take tiles off ?
andy
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:44 pm
by lutonlagerlout
wouldn't worry to much hen
all new bays have to be signed off by building control and fensa registered
if your man cant do this be worried
normally they would have steel posts adjacent to every jam of the bay,maybe packed with steel shims
the old frames were load bearing so to take them out you must support the existing roof/ceilings
little crack is normal
but get it signed off
LLL
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:55 pm
by henpecked
lutonlagerlout wrote:little crack is normal
but get it signed off
LLL
he should have warned you of this
why did he have to take tiles off ?
andy
He had problems getting it in ,then said it was th batten that was rotten. Looked sound to me. ???
Cheers ,Luton. Its not a new bay, its existing,so no paper work. Did acro the roof, but is a big ole bay 
Keeping close eye on proceedings, hes had 4.5k so far, Im holding onto the remaining 3k just as insurance.
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:10 pm
by lutonlagerlout
thats a negative hen,if you replace a bay it has to be signed off by building control and he has to give you a fensa cert.
if you dont get this you will have major problems if you ever try to sell your house
problem is that the old frames were built in with big thick mullions 4"by 3"
the new one should have steel posts in between each section
I had to have the front of my house re-pebbledashed after the fitters changed the bays
if he had to bash it in he didnt measure it right in the first place,but in his defence Bays are notoriously hard to measure correctly as some of the mouldings have been painted over
how many part is the bay 5 or 7?
cheers LLL
pic would be handy too mate
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:44 pm
by henpecked
lutonlagerlout wrote:how many part is the bay 5 or 7?
cheers LLL
Errrrr.....6 lol.
Its a five with a return on both bays, top and bottom. The mullions are steel tubed, and the frames are re-enforced, (he did show me)
I'l see if I can get some pic's but Im not too worried as ,from what I've read, bays are very prone to movement.
