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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:16 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i saw something this weekend i havent seen for a long time, a lot of fights??
I actually said to mrs lout saturday night ,that there must be something in the water because i saw more scraps out and about saturday than i have seen in the last year or two??
was this just a statistical blip?
LLL ???
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:23 pm
by DNgroundworks
No LLL, i was out in Clitheroe on sat night, fighting all over the place, police stood in clubs keeping the calm. I was outside the social and there were bodies falling everywhere. Strange eh? Not seen scrapping like that since to black eye fridays ago!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:28 pm
by ken
I haven’t been out drinking in Leigh or Wigan for 10 years now, last time we went my best mate got battered and stabbed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. But I guess coked up sted heads wanting to fight can be found in every town.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:43 pm
by DNgroundworks
Coked up, sted heads outnumber "normal people" in my local town on a night out, and that is no exaggeration, powder is as easy to get hold of as beer, terrible state of affairs. And the amount of people on the juice seems to have increased tenfold in the last 6 months, whats going on?
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:47 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i have to say that from the age of 18-23 fighting was something that went on regular in my peer group
but around about 1989 (summer of love2) it all kinda fizzled out
then with improvements to security and CCTV fighting became much more likely to get you arrested
thats why it seems all the stranger?
LLL
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:58 pm
by Carberry
Something to do with gypsies moving to Luton? :p
I get a bollocking from people because I break up street fights then referee them. Or If it is 2 or 3 against 1 I have thumped the 2 who have joined in and let the other 2 go at it.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:04 am
by seanandruby
.......your either very tuf, or very lucky. Trying to stop a fight like that with strangers can go wrong, gone are the days you can break up a fight without getting an hiding, or worse yourself. I've done it in the past but wouldn't attempt it now. Think there are more likely to be fighting now because a lot of young ones are getting tanked up on cheap booze before hitting the pubs, so mostly pissed earlier than usual and haven't had time to slowly get into the feel good mood.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:22 am
by Carberry
seanandruby wrote:.......your either very tuf, or very lucky. Trying to stop a fight like that with strangers can go wrong, gone are the days you can break up a fight without getting an hiding, or worse yourself. I've done it in the past but wouldn't attempt it now. Think there are more likely to be fighting now because a lot of young ones are getting tanked up on cheap booze before hitting the pubs, so mostly pissed earlier than usual and haven't had time to slowly get into the feel good mood.
Bit of both. I don't really drink, I have only been drunk 4 times in the last 4 years and that is because of girlfriends wanting to see me drunk. Mixed martial arts is my passion, I went to Brazil for 6 months to train with Brazilian Top Team. I was training 6 hours a day, 6 days a week with some of the best fighters in the world.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:16 am
by seanandruby
there was a brummie lad years ago exactly the same....martial arts etc. He stepped in to stop a scrap and ended up knifed, dead. Just be careful m8 some young 'uns are so unpredictable.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am
by GB_Groundworks
I threw some lads out of a mates bar, they were two friends started scrapping I was there upstairs with the owner door staff downstairs on the door. Collared them scruff of the neck pushed them downstairs I'm 19 odd stone pretty handy prop forward these lads only young squirts, anyway door staff meet me on stairs and throw them and me out, all roids no brains, owners behind telling them to leave me alone.
Young uns start mouthing off their coming back to shoot us..... Next thing one of themes thrown a brick at door staff and the queue missed everyone but shattered the laminate glass wall thing. Door staff got him and handed him to cops, 10 years ago they'd have kicked the living crap out of him...
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:21 pm
by lutonlagerlout
seanandruby wrote:there was a brummie lad years ago exactly the same....martial arts etc. He stepped in to stop a scrap and ended up knifed, dead. Just be careful m8 some young 'uns are so unpredictable.
we had a new doorman turn up in luton,6'3" russian light heavyweight kickboxing champion,lets call him "roger the russian"
anyway it kicks off,he gets involved and some chav smashes him over the head with a bottle, he gets knocked out and pub gets wrecked
i find it best to avoid trouble now,i can spot the warning signs and generally leave before it starts
martial arts are great 1 on 1,but on the street it rarely is
LLL :;):
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:54 pm
by henpecked
lutonlagerlout wrote:martial arts are great 1 on 1,but on the street it rarely is
LLL :;):
Krav maga is the one. Kick boxing is naff in a closed environment. The best is Ju-jitsu which involves holds and chokes, close quarters this is one of the most effective.
You wont get 'bouncers' punching anyone much these days. it can lead to them losing their licence if it goes to court and end up with a charge. This can be a warning ,even.
I did the doors back before radios, CCTV and instant response. The old bill hated us, the pubs needs us and the women wanted us lol. I'd like to think I was one of the 'good guys' no roids, not prison, would actually talk it out before it got too far. Miss it, still think it was a lot more dangerous back in the 90's no matter what anyone says.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:45 pm
by lutonlagerlout
it certainly was hen,
i used to frequent bars in london where you had to hand over your "bits and bobs" as you went in,bit like a cloakroom
then get them back at the end of the night,
it was a good system till i sat on the mace canister one night and gassed myself and the taxi driver 
doh!
ammonia in jif bottles and telescopic coshes were pretty common too along with various sharp things
pubs are a lot safer now than in the late 80's early 90's
and as i said its mainly 18-23 yr olds knocking lumps out of each other
LLL