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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:42 pm
by 47p2
Thanks Injured, I'm pleased with the results so far.

Still a long way to go before it's completed though

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:09 pm
by Suggers
Looks fabbo - just wish my dogs were that coool - (schnauzers)

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:29 pm
by 47p2
He's an old boy Suggers, he has to stay indoors all day when the workmen are here and he doesn't like it. He loves being outdoors but not so keen on the rain but loves the cold and the snow. When the temperature dipped to -20 here during the winter I brought him indoors and had to get out my bed and let him outside again as he just wouldn't settle.

He sleeps most of the day and chases foxes at night.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:17 pm
by 47p2
I had a bit of a surprise this morning when I returned from walking the dog, three workmen were waiting to get in to do a half day Saturday shift which I never knew about.

They finished off the area in front of the garage, I would think by Monday they should almost be at the corner of the house.

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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:27 pm
by Mikey_C
in the batch of latest photos top picture under the twin roller do i see landscaping fabric between type 1 and sand?

didn't think this was right?

however the job/finish looks FANTASTIC!!!

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:33 pm
by 47p2
They are laying some sort of fabric between the type 1 and sand. Weed suppression I think they said :(

Should I be saying something to them about it?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:48 pm
by mickg
the geotextile membrane should be on top of the subsoil which helps prevent the intermixing of the sub soil or clay and the MOT type 1 hardcore

its also used to stops weeds or roots from penetrating upwards through the hardcore into the sand laying course

unless they have used it over the top of the aqua crates you have had installed to stop the grit sand from migrating down into the soak a way cells

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:00 pm
by darrenba
Seems like membrane can be either above or below the Type 1

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There also seems to be some confusion and disagreement as to just where a membrane should be placed within the pavement structure, with some contractors claiming it should be placed on top of the sub-base, between the "hardcore" and the sand bedding, and others insisting it should be placed between the sub-grade and the sub-base.


http://www.pavingexpert.com/faqmembr.htm

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:01 pm
by bobbi o
About the first time i've seen a block paving outfit using a double drum roller on a domestic job. v. impressive. dont see why you can name them on here as their obviously a proffesional set up.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:05 pm
by 47p2
Thanks for the info Mick, they never used any membrane on top of the cells. There is 100mm pea gravel on the cells then backfilled with sub soil and 250-300mm type 1 then sand and block. They said that as the type 1 was only 150-200mm in front of the garage the membrane would suppress any weeds.

I will clarify the membrane with them on Monday

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:13 pm
by 47p2
darrenba wrote:Seems like membrane can be either above or below the Type 1

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There also seems to be some confusion and disagreement as to just where a membrane should be placed within the pavement structure, with some contractors claiming it should be placed on top of the sub-base, between the "hardcore" and the sand bedding, and others insisting it should be placed between the sub-grade and the sub-base.


http://www.pavingexpert.com/faqmembr.htm
I read that page before my last reply, thanks for the link though.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:14 pm
by 47p2
bobbi o wrote:About the first time i've seen a block paving outfit using a double drum roller on a domestic job. v. impressive. dont see why you can name them on here as their obviously a proffesional set up.
The cars I have are all over 2 tonnes and I didn't want anything sinking.

The company who are doing the work mostly do commercial jobs. When I was getting quotes I stressed that I wanted something more than a whacker plate compacting the ground as we are on clay and I wanted the job done only once. I was right in insisting on this as a few soft spots have shown up when the roller has been compacting the type 1 but when the whacker plate was taken over the same spot nothing was showing.

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:22 pm
by 47p2
bobbi o wrote:dont see why you can name them on here as their obviously a proffesional set up.
I wasn't sure if I was allowed to advertise the company on here.

I have no problem supplying the name but I would have to ask the forum's permission and also the said companies permission.

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:07 am
by irishpaving
There is no problem laying textile under the grit sand as it sometimes is in specifiations on large commercial sites. I have seen thrre layers of terram used on some jobs. I still however think that a membrane should of been wrapped around the cells as Mick mentions. All in have the costs been reasonable 47

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:32 am
by 47p2
The cells are to Marshalls drainage experts specifications irish, so if it isn't correct they will have to sort it out.

I had 3 quotes from Marshalls approved companies, about 6 quotes from Yellow Pages and another couple of quotes.
One Marshalls guy was so expensive I thought he was doing the whole street, another Marshalls guy wanted to sell me resin bonded gravel for my paths. The Yellow Pages quotes were the least expensive by a long way, but they all wanted to cut corners in the drainage and some wanted to leave the old concrete in place and pave over it :(

The company I am using was the middle of the price range, he listened to what I wanted, didn't try and talk me into something I never wanted and was always available to discuss ideas and changes. I could call him in the morning and he would turn up at my door a couple of hours later. Since the project has started he has been here every day checking how things are going. I have to give him his due and say that he is on the ball and nothing is a problem.