Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:13 pm
Just read the whole thread.
He brings up some good points about the industry in general but comes across as an arrogant prick in doing so when he quite obviously doesn't know it all ie: doesn't understand the difference between commercial and domestic, thinks all hard landscapers are idiots, can't understand basic statistics and is ignorant of geology and chemistry.
We all know there needs to be some good quality, government backed standard qualification for the industry
We all know that in the last ~20 years there has been a big increase in the numbers and types of stones imported in to Britain with much of it not thoroughly tested in our climate.
We know that suppliers should be rigorously testing their product before putting it on the market ensuring that the client knows how porous the stone is (with some stones like granite it isn't terribly important because it is within such a low range that knowing a precise figure isn't important but in the case of limestone where it can be really like a sponge or like granite it is really important), how dense the stone is and it's slip resistance value. They should then be held liable if the goods are not fit for purpose.
For now that is all a pipe dream.
Steve, you made your arguments but I fear you're bashing your head off a condescending arrogant wall.
With regards to the problem, I don't think anyone mentioned just how slippery this paving was which is very important. I have had a moronic arrogant prick of a customer sit and watch me try to wash a fossil out of some sandstone for a few hours using various different methods because he insisted it was stained and not a fossil (charged him ars*hole added tax for my time).
He brings up some good points about the industry in general but comes across as an arrogant prick in doing so when he quite obviously doesn't know it all ie: doesn't understand the difference between commercial and domestic, thinks all hard landscapers are idiots, can't understand basic statistics and is ignorant of geology and chemistry.
We all know there needs to be some good quality, government backed standard qualification for the industry
We all know that in the last ~20 years there has been a big increase in the numbers and types of stones imported in to Britain with much of it not thoroughly tested in our climate.
We know that suppliers should be rigorously testing their product before putting it on the market ensuring that the client knows how porous the stone is (with some stones like granite it isn't terribly important because it is within such a low range that knowing a precise figure isn't important but in the case of limestone where it can be really like a sponge or like granite it is really important), how dense the stone is and it's slip resistance value. They should then be held liable if the goods are not fit for purpose.
For now that is all a pipe dream.
Steve, you made your arguments but I fear you're bashing your head off a condescending arrogant wall.
With regards to the problem, I don't think anyone mentioned just how slippery this paving was which is very important. I have had a moronic arrogant prick of a customer sit and watch me try to wash a fossil out of some sandstone for a few hours using various different methods because he insisted it was stained and not a fossil (charged him ars*hole added tax for my time).
