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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:45 pm
by Dave_L
"Forget the bond, keep 'em long"

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:19 pm
by lutonlagerlout
crikey thats some gaff,looks like chewton glen :)
lovely display johnny.I am pretty much clueless on soft scaping
LLL

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:47 pm
by jonnyboyentire
It'll look better in 2-3 weeks when the bedding plants have matured a bit. The idea is to go for a riot of colour - client would rather pay my maintenance crew to tend to plants than weeding in understocked borders :D
I have some pics of the hard landscaping somewhere. IIRC we laid 260m2 of the black limestone with a detail line of monsoon black 285x560's to match the walling. As far as I recall there is not one cross/4corner anywhere on that job except where the detail line meets the rest of it.
The lights have been a pita as they keep failing. DO NOT BUY REBUS LED GROUP LIGHTS !!!!!
Will post later on if I can find the pics!!!
Thanks for the comments. Appreciated.
Pablo, which of the Urns? I know where they all came from if you want a recommendation :)

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:53 pm
by pickwell paving
Don't get me wrong Pablo I'm not knocking your work it looks spot on, people come on here to promote best practice bit it seems to me that they are chopping and choosing which bits they follow themselves, people are quick to say about something as trivial as 4 corners meeting on a patio, regarding the spot bedding comment I didn't mean in terms of structural stability just as in people following best practice. LLL it's all on the main site about tegula in board cutting, tegula herringbone is pretty much the same as 200x100 herringbone regarding halves although there might be the very odd occasion where it's not possible. :)

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:55 pm
by Pablo
The shallow ones although I wouldn't need the plinths. Letting the bedding keep the weeds at bay is a great way to lessen the load over the summer and probably doesn't cost that much more than paying a gardener to weed regularly.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:57 pm
by Pablo
Pickwell I know you weren't and totally understand your point of view. Whats your first name by the way?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:16 pm
by lutonlagerlout
well I like to question the perceived authority?
if we took accepted wisdom for granted we would still think the world was flat
if a patio is truly random there could be crosses adjacent same size flags etc.but we make a "random pattern"
incidentally, the cock and balls we saw almost certainly leads to a cross
with tegula it just doesnt look right with inboard cutting
i think if you use a splitter then darts are more likely to fail
when i look at the finished drive/patio ,aesthetics is the first thing i see
does it look good?
falls correct?
compliments the house?
etc etc
if the cutting is accurate a reasonable size dart or slip wont move,
LLL

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:09 pm
by pickwell paving
lutonlagerlout wrote:if the cutting is accurate a reasonable size dart or slip wont move,
LLL
Thought that was the whole point of in board cutting that the slips and darts aren't of a reasonable size? Name's Lee, Pablo, I see where your all coming from with aesthetics etc just that I was taught from a commercial paving background and if I didn't do it correctly it was taken up and done again, still think bigger cuts are less noticable than little pieces of block :p :)

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:14 pm
by jonnyboyentire
Pablo wrote:The shallow ones although I wouldn't need the plinths. Letting the bedding keep the weeds at bay is a great way to lessen the load over the summer and probably doesn't cost that much more than paying a gardener to weed regularly.
I'll look into it for you Pablo. I moved them from where the client wanted them into the shade as they are a touch shallow to stay damp through the day, the weather we've had. I don't recall them being particularly expensive.
The timescales weeding vs looking after the bedding/herbaceous plants is about the same we reckon.
But then you have the added enjoyment of the purty flowers :cool:

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:19 pm
by DNgroundworks
I totally agree with regards to the squaring off kit, we do it exactly the same as cookie, we are doing one right now actually, will post pictures later.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:24 pm
by lutonlagerlout
here is an example of when i have used inboard
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and one where i didnt
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I think a lot depends on the job
LLL

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:55 pm
by GB_Groundworks
lutonlagerlout wrote:i'm just putting the giles hat on for a change===> half cut
day and a half for 3 men is good going dig out etc etc
what did you do in the other half day?
I ask this because when we knock something out by 1pm then its job and knock
so effectively 2 days for 3 men
the patio looks better than i could do bar one weird yellow flag to the left of the arched step
it looks like a 900 by 600 with 2 small cuts on top of it?
also on the 13th radius of the circle 9which looks the mutts if i may say there is what looks like a 35mm cut
nothing not to like there in all the great work but we must be seen to be critical of each other if that makes sense
love the blocks in the planter
never seen them this way
all the best
LLL :)
so this was the arsey message you were apologising for haha,

i only seek to point out the wisdon of the one, the true overlord all hail the gaffer. just seems strange to have a wealth of info on here and when you spot something like a + not to point it out.

haha, right Tony its war lol :)

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:39 pm
by lutonlagerlout
nah the one i sent you was much much worse :;):
"let he without sin casteth the first stone"

LLL :cool:

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:50 pm
by haggistini
lutonlagerlout wrote:here is an example of when i have used inboard
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Couldn't you have made a false line buy running a 2mm cut down the inboard blocks? Maintaining the integrity of the block yet keeping with the aesthetics of the pattern?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:06 am
by lutonlagerlout
were do you get 2mm blades from haggi?
i discussed it with the guy and he was happy with the outcome
nothing worse than a threshold that is neither atrue curve or a staright line
LLL