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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:03 pm
by mickg
all he is saying is the driveway is brand new so doing an overlay in this situation is not the correct way
the lads working for the contractor have cocked through what ever reason it was but its up to the contractor to put the work right and that in my opinion and i agree with everyone else does not mean doing an overlay and they certainly would not being doing that if it was my driveway
the bottom line is down to the integrity of the contractor and is he going to rectify his work
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:45 am
by loudog
I have done hundreds and hundreds of over lay jobs and i can see what Colourdrives is saying, Colourdrives is living in the real world and when the guy doesn't get his new drive cause he has scared the company off, I just hope he comes on here to post that he has still got his crap drive. Its called living in the real world, it all sound all so easy, just come back, rip it up and relay, but that doesnt happen in the real world.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:17 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i tell you what happens in the real world loudog
ppl who lay drives like that go to court,go bankrupt ,lose everything then sit in pubs moaning about everyone being against them
overlays are fine as a patch up job to spruce up a tired drive,I have seen them done by clued up gangs and for the money they are ok
but if i had paid full whack for a brand spanking new drive,I would not accept what those guys did
the OP should not have paid for that abortion they did ,but to suggest that he should accept inferior work or they will "walk away " shows a lack of accountability on their part
I would give the contractor the opportunity to put it right then if thats a no go the legal route
then finally if that dont work it would be "OPTION 3"
LLL
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:47 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
lets look at all the pros and cons .color drives was only making a suggestion and one that if possible i.e levels would be an option .what the tarmac lads are saying its the cheapest option of putting a job right to a certain extent .alot of council footpaths are overlaid .cut key is the phrase i think,probably wrong on that .option 3 doesnt work lll .had a suspended sentence to prove that.doesnt get you your money back either.i cant see them ripping up and starting again to be honest .small claims court doesnt work either.
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:03 pm
by rab1
have to agree with LLL on this one: the overlay option is the easy option for the contractor who did this work not the client who paid for the work to be carried out to an acceptable standard.
At the end of the day the client wants what they have paid for. If you buy a merc and then given a smart car would you not be a tad annoyed.
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:18 pm
by lutonlagerlout
loudog wrote:I have done hundreds and hundreds of over lay jobs and i can see what Colourdrives is saying, Colourdrives is living in the real world and when the guy doesn't get his new drive cause he has scared the company off,
I just hope he comes on here to post that he has still got his crap drive.
Its called living in the real world, it all sound all so easy, just come back, rip it up and relay, but that doesnt happen in the real world.
why would you hope that lou?
how would you feel now if you had lost this job to those guys by say £200 ?
would you have left it like that?
we all make mistakes, but when you are a contractor mistakes cost money,we made a cock up with the position of some windows last year and it cost us £1000
we didnt want to pay for it to be redone but our reputation was at stake
the lads that do black top for me did a 300m overlay and at the end of the day they were 2 barrows short,they came back the next day and did those 2 barrows,i appreciated the fact they didnt try and stretch the mac to fill in the last 2 metres
anyway all the best
LLL
Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:42 pm
by seanandruby
option 3 sounds the best. :;): this site is called paving expert, not bodge it up expert. It sounds like some of you ''experts'' actually condone shoddy work, or hit and run. No matter what, they should be made to do a proper job. Imagine it was your place, or worse, your parents. Would you let it go then? Thought not.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:28 pm
by loudog
I am not saying that the overlay is the best but if they had any good intensions that drive would have been ripped up by now and done properly, they want to give it 3 weeks hoping she gets fed up, why you cant see that, I only said hope she comes back on here to say it is not done as to prove what these so called tarmacers are about. If they rip it up and start again i will stand corrected, i have delt with tarmac for 30 years and seen just about everything and if she gets a new drive ill run round my estate naked. lol
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:58 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i hear ye loudog :;):
its a crying shame for the conscientious ones amongst us that these wnackers try to bodgit and scarper
it gives everyone a bad name
main tip and this should be a sticky is "DONT PAY ALL THE MONEY TILL ALL THE WORK IS FINISHED TO YOUR SATISFACTION"
there seems to be a rule of thumb amongst cowboys that once they have the money its time to leave and never return
LLL
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:24 am
by loudog
I agree, never never pay as they will near enough do anything for you if you have held some of there beer money back
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:29 pm
by Dave_L
Any reputable contractor would never ask for full monies up front, if they do then the alarm bells should start ringing!
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:56 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
well its been 4 weeks now.any news???
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:58 am
by colordrives
Be interested to know how the OP got on with this? my money is on "they have disappeared!"
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:26 pm
by lutonlagerlout
colordrives wrote:Be interested to know how the OP got on with this? my money is on "they have disappeared!"
schadenfreude
LLL
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:38 pm
by irishpaving
Overlays are ok but I bet it is agreed with the customer first. Its when you expect a new tarmac drive and then are given options what needs to be done to rectify the finished product. That's when a contractor is responsible to relay the wearing course of bring in the infra red.