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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
good thinking Sean
may need a razor to have a shave now and again as you are cutting though :;):
LLL

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:35 pm
by seanandruby
Ha ha, yes slow cutting but will hopefully stop splintering. Just a thought :p

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:53 pm
by sy76uk
I spoke to my assessor about it a few weeks back and he said pretty much the same as you Mark regarding the continuos rim tile blade.
Got one so I'll see how I get on with it.
Good idea Sean. Might be an idea to start with carbon and finish with the diamond.
Spent the last few days mitering blues on the steps for the bricky.
The steps were tricky on this job and I think he hates me now lol.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:13 pm
by sy76uk
This job is doing my head in lol.
I can't get on with the continuous rim blade so put the normal diamond blade on and it's cutting fine.
I'm finding that a few are shattering.
It's taken 3 days to lay 30mm and cut round 2 steps and 3 lids.
Fingers crossed the garden will be finished by the end of next week.
On the plus side, it looks lovely down.
Pictures don't do it justice.

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:41 pm
by lemoncurd1702
Simon, what I found was that the blade needed running through some soft material for some time to break it in, then way to go.

Are they shattering as you get to the end of the cut. Need to cut the end quite deep before cutting right through, as found to my cost.
They do look beuatiful when laid and though they seem a pain at the moment once you get the hang of them you'll be looking for the next job.

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:14 pm
by sy76uk
I didn't run through anything before I used it Mark. Thought I'd only need to do that when the blade dulls.

Only a few have shattered but it's not just the end. When I've been cutting round the IC's I can't use the off cat's for the centre.

The job in general has been a jinx up to now. Just one of those jobs where if something can go wrong it will.
Front pully went on the van.
wacker broke.
Went through a power cable with a level pin and will need to buy a full pack of flags for the sake of 2m2 because marshalls only do 600x600 in singles and 800 is the common denominator on the rustic.
I'll be glad to see the back of this one.

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:24 pm
by lemoncurd1702
I feel for you Simon. Those jobs come along at least once a year I've just had mine and hope it's the last.

Can't understand why they do a 600 series and an 800 series, Marshalls can be an enigma on times. Why they can't do order select on the symphony is yet another enigma, wouldn't be so bad if the packs were 8m2, 16m2 is hard to swallow for 2m. Looks like you're going to have a new patio for yourself then.

The assesor for my area ran a test on some blades and the one that came out on top was a continuos rim made by sima. He reckons it cut from the word go and didn't need sharpening, maybe hadn't cut that many slabs though.

By the way it's you who's the jinx, reading your post I reached for the Marshalls catalogue and knocked a full glass of red over some paperwork.
Couldn't give a toss about the paperwork, but the wine...... :D

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:31 pm
by lutonlagerlout
we all have them jobs sy
keep your chin up mate
not a fan of vitrified paving as yet
would like to see the 5 year test of some that is laid first
LLL

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:09 pm
by sy76uk
We all get these jobs where nothing seems to go as planned.
ATM I'll just be happy to get the job finished and not lose money.

I raised the issue about the order select and the 600 and 800 issue with carrie and Paul a while back and they have sent the point up the chain.
It doesn't help in my current situation though.

I agree with you on not being completely convinced with the symphony Tony.
I think the concept is brilliant but the colours are printed on and I think that could be the weak point.

My next job in this stuff is the copper colour and that is in short supply.
I'm thinking copper slate might be a better idea.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:48 pm
by lemoncurd1702
I reckon this stuff (ceramic) is the future of outdoor paving.

Give it a try Tony, think it will win you over.

Simon, used some copper slate last year. Very nice looking product but it's very laminated I.E the colourful bit looks that it may flake away to expose the err.. slate colour.
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Probably need some serious sealer. Looks nice though.
This was from NPP and in 500m series which is a nice size to work with. Cost £23/m2 in 2014.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:30 pm
by sy76uk
All slates laminated Mark. The good thing about slate is that because it's less porous than sandstone it's going to be less likely to get a frost in it and blow and even if it does lose some of the surface layer it's still going to look the same underneath.
I have a feeling that the print on the new porcelain stuff will end up like faded wall paper in 5-10 years.
Could be and I hope I'm wrong but it is a concern.
I think I'm back in the camp that says you can't beat good natural products.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:58 am
by lutonlagerlout
I got hammered by geofix when it first came out and it has made me wary of wonder products
vitrified looks nice ,but the issues with cutting worry me
LLL

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:42 pm
by sy76uk
1 flag short.
Paul from marshalls is sorting one out for.
Happy with that otherwise I would have had a very expensive cut inside an inspection chamber.
I'll post some picks over the weekend once it's jointed.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:57 pm
by lemoncurd1702
Sounds like one of those TFFT moments.
Be good to see some piccies and I bet you will use them again :D

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:28 pm
by sy76uk
Oh yes.
The cut is around 600x400 so what would that have worked out at per m2 if I would have had to buy a full pack for it? Lol.
I was resisting posting pics yet but here is one.
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It just needs jointing and a few finishing touches to complete the patio.
I've got the drive to do before I get paid but it's only 20m2 so I should be finished next week.