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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:04 pm
by GB_Groundworks
Thunderstruck wrote:Hi The Tool, I do hydro seeding works and this machine looks like it would be a great help when working on small jobs, do you know how many square meters you can riddle in a 8 hour working day? I am not interested in having a sledge hammer to break a walnut machine as sugessted by BG-Groundworks! FFS if I took one of them machines onto a private estate how would I park up the low-loader :laugh: It looks like a good piece of kit for the sole trader, Can you message me with a price for a small sustainable unit I can fit into a transit van please.
So you'd need a low loader for a bucket? Well if you are a private estate then there'd be plenty of room. Last one we were on was 4000 acres
You hydro seed areas that you need a few barrows of soil for seems overkill?
Yeah 450 or 600 good size buckets for the 1 to 3 ton market
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:32 pm
by Thunderstruck
GB_Groundworks wrote:Thunderstruck wrote:Hi The Tool, I do hydro seeding works and this machine looks like it would be a great help when working on small jobs, do you know how many square meters you can riddle in a 8 hour working day? I am not interested in having a sledge hammer to break a walnut machine as sugessted by BG-Groundworks! FFS if I took one of them machines onto a private estate how would I park up the low-loader :laugh: It looks like a good piece of kit for the sole trader, Can you message me with a price for a small sustainable unit I can fit into a transit van please.
So you'd need a low loader for a bucket? Well if you are a private estate then there'd be plenty of room. Last one we were on was 4000 acres
You hydro seed areas that you need a few barrows of soil for seems overkill?
Yeah 450 or 600 good size buckets for the 1 to 3 ton market
Hi Mate, yeah properties over here only have a garden size around 200m2 - 600m2 in size (I meant housing estate in jest not large estate!) work over here is on a small scale, spoke to the gent making these small riddles and he is a very helpful guy trying to tap in on small scale works only 
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:41 am
by GB_Groundworks
Something this size would be good
http://www.smithshire.co.nz/products-7-369.php
Good sized little one
http://bit.ly/18dqa4D
Seem easy enough to build
http://bit.ly/15Hs0fo
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:59 pm
by TheTool
Hi Giles
I have been thinking of a larger unit for the future, In the states they have been using screeners for years.
As waste charges rise and trust me they will, its the governments way to bring in more recycling and raising more tax money.
What is needed is a way of separating on site before its disposed of and you are charged for disposal.
I have worked out that if you screen 300kg of soil 100kg will be oversize and 200kg would be useable screened soil that could be retained on site.
I guess once you start using a screener you start to see how it makes life easier.
The small screener I have in the vid can screen just over a ton an hour by hand, and I mean stuff full of roots and sods.
When you see these screeners advertised they are always screening loose soil that just flows over the screen, I even seen some screening sand lol.
The trouble with the bigger screeners is you cannot get them into the typical garden due to the size of UK properties.
This is why I want to produce a small 1000mm screener that can be loaded by hand or small digger.
Once I have got the machine perfected I am thinking of building larger units but at an affordable cost.
I am trying to fund this project on a shoe string at the moment so its taking a bit of time to get to the finished version.
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:28 pm
by GB_Groundworks
something this size appeals to me then we could set it up in the yard or on larger jobs and rather than shifting 500 tons out etc we could sell say 100 tons and just muck away the other 400
or stuff that comes back to the yard at our leisure screen it for stock piling and future use,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm....43929e1
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:41 pm
by TheTool
That's exactly it giles, if you have a yard or field where space is not a problem then you could screen all the soil you pull out of jobs and stockpile it.
You could even sell it back to the customers or other ground workers.
People want screened soil, no stone picking etc.
I think if you screened 100 tons and got say 70 or 80 tons of screened soil from it then you have created something you can sell for say £20 to £40 a ton = £1600 to £3200
A screener starts to make sense.
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:51 pm
by dig dug dan
Whilst giles is correct, the environment agency wont allow us to do it as it is classed as a waste transfer station!
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:30 pm
by TheTool
Well that's typical aint it with the way things are going, the govt want there cut lol.
Depends on what they call waste ?
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:56 pm
by dig dug dan
Its complicated, but I think if you do it small scale away from prying eyes, its ok.
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:12 pm
by TheTool
Isnt it a shame when govt gets in the way of business, years ago it just went on and nobody cared.
Sounds to me its job creation.
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:23 am
by Thunderstruck
dig dug dan wrote:Whilst giles is correct, the environment agency wont allow us to do it as it is classed as a waste transfer station!
Stealth Tax in the UK - Time for the revolution :laugh:
The harder you work, the more they take the piss!
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:58 pm
by Digbits
GB_Groundworks wrote:A bucket mounted one would be better, a smaller rotating bucket screen.
A smaller rotary screening bucket ... like this perhaps?
http://www.bavcrushers.co.uk/Screening_Buckets.php
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:20 pm
by dig dug dan
those are great, but as usual will not fit on a micro digger. thats where the problem is. a 750mm gateway to a garden and all our plant has to fir through this gap.
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:19 pm
by TheTool
Yes also how much are these to buy, and also what are the service intervals ?
Wear parts etc?
My machine needs zero maintenance, yes that's right "ZERO"
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:28 pm
by orson
Hi, I can definitely see a market for these with the hire shops and also with landscapers in London, where there are literally 10's of thousands of terraced houses with no back access at all. I've worked on lots of places where everything has to go through the house and where you can't even barrow materials through, its gone through in buckets!!!. So, if you could grade the soil in the back garden, the amount going in the skip would be reduced (we're paying £200 per skip down here) and £60 to the greedy grasping Council for the licence.