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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:01 pm
by lutonlagerlout
unless otherwise specified i shall be sticking to easipoint or sand and cement
i dont consider 4-5 years to be longevity
i have been sold down the river too many times by *wonder* products, that last 3 years
LLL
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:03 pm
by mickg
I did a driveway August last year and just as we had finished brushing off the surplus weatherpoint the heavens opened and it was lashing it down with rain for the rest of the evening, I called back the following day and all the weatherpoint was all still intact, if that had been traditional sand and cement and we had spent all day pointing It would of ruined the driveway
due to the fact of the amount of rain the weatherpoint got in the early days of its life I have kept calling round every couple of months to keep my eye on it, its all still as hard as a rock and the home owner has actually power washed the driveway
it has also survived last winter too, granted its still early days but so far its holding its own, it was tested for 18 months in the harsh climate of good old Scotland and passed all the testing so at the moment its been about 3 years since it was first used on British soil but much longer in Europe
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:25 pm
by London Stone Paving
I would also reccomend weather point or any of the sweep in products to eyebrows. There are question marks about the longetivity but in terms of speed and simplicity there is no substitute.
Mick G has got a lot of faith in Marshalls and rightly so, they are the benchmark, but on the same note Marshalls have not invented some brand new 1 part sweep in product, they have simply jumped on the bandwaggon because they have seen that the market for these products is huge.
Weatherpoint is no different to easyjoint or romex easy. They are all fantastic products but they are also unproven over a long period of time. I have just used easijoint on my patio at home. I used it for one reason, I could get the job done in half an hour. Also the patio is only short term. When I do my patio for real I would not dream of using a sweep in. I think these products are ok as long as people know what to expect
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:29 pm
by London Stone Paving
One of the less well known 2 part products is called resiply. I know John who invented resiply and we tried to convince him to make us our own branded 1 part sweep in but he refused to do it. He said he would not put his name to a 1 part because the chemcial process involved in making a 1 part simply did not allow for durability over a long period of time
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:09 pm
by eyebrows
I'm happy to go for a 2 part. To be honest I haven't spent much time looking into it. I'm sure there are many links and advice on this site for me to find. I would much rather spend a bit more time and money using a long term product it's just easy and lasy to ask for a nudge in the right direction.
I finished the last bit tonight so things are going ahead for my daughters 1st birthday which is tomorrow 
in the grand scheme of things the patio doesn't matter but I promised it would be ready!
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:39 pm
by lutonlagerlout
fair play eyesbrows
ready for the party is the most important thing
and mick i found this on the LSJ webby
"you show me a photo of a sand and cement pointed patio thats been installed 2 - 3 years ago or longer and "NON" repeat "NON"of the pointing being cracked and i will show my arse on my local town hall steps, its a fact that somewhere on that job the pointing will hairline crack either parallel to the paving flag, normally one side only or across the width of the joint due to movement within the paving or the pointing shrinking"
is bolton town hall ,ready for monsieur gammage in the noddy?
:laugh:
cheers LLL
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:00 am
by mickg
ha ha you need to get a life me thinks 
where is your photo of a patio pointed 2 - 3 years ago without any cracks ?
my bill grundy are safe :p
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:23 am
by lutonlagerlout
mick you have a stalker :;):
i actually googled "is marshalls weatherpoint 365 a polymeric?"
and it came up with loads of your threads from the GC forum
it looks enticing, but then so does crack cocaine at first :;):
I will give it a miss untill the 5 year installation pics are ready
too many fails from geo**** and rompox ****
the hairline crack issue is more to do with lack of expansion joints than anything else
no one wants a great big polysulphide joint across their patio
cheers LLL
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:33 am
by local patios and driveway
lutonlagerlout wrote:unless otherwise specified i shall be sticking to easipoint or sand and cement
i dont consider 4-5 years to be longevity
i have been sold down the river too many times by *wonder* products, that last 3 years
LLL
I have to agree. All these products that promise the earth then a few years later fail. Nahh they dont match with my 10yr garauntee.