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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:23 pm
by flowjoe
Great thread guys that could give `Recent Works` a run for its money

Welcome to my world of pain

50mm gap over a 75mm deep manhole cover
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Concrete access ramp over manhole cover
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This is an every day thing, these two on the same job :(

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:18 pm
by henpecked
Pffft!

Now that first pic is genius!

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:43 am
by lutonlagerlout
what did you do?
wizz the railings?
LLL :;):

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:50 am
by Tony McC
mickg wrote:was that at Tatton Tony ?

Yep - one of the alleged up-and-coming wunderkinder. At least they got the turf green-side-up!

That business with fences over access covers is something that can often be seen on housing estates built in the 70s. There was a notion at the time that rather than burden one property with the sub-surface drainage coming from the back of the house out to the drag-out MH and the main sewer beneath the road, they would run the pipes right down the bloody centre line between two adjacent properties. Share the pain, so to speak.

Brilliant idea except for the fact that, when owners decided to put up a fence or, even worse, build a wall along the boundary line, the siodding IC covers were always smack bang in the way. Of course, by thet time, the housebuilder and groundworker were long gone!

Classic example....

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...at least it's only a 2' waney lap and a base panel which can be lifted out quite easily if access is needed, but still, what a knobbish idea in the first place!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:34 pm
by Mikey_C
Tony McC wrote:
mickg wrote:was that at Tatton Tony ?

Yep - one of the alleged up-and-coming wunderkinder. At least they got the turf green-side-up!

That business with fences over access covers is something that can often be seen on housing estates built in the 70s. There was a notion at the time that rather than burden one property with the sub-surface drainage coming from the back of the house out to the drag-out MH and the main sewer beneath the road, they would run the pipes right down the bloody centre line between two adjacent properties. Share the pain, so to speak.

Brilliant idea except for the fact that, when owners decided to put up a fence or, even worse, build a wall along the boundary line, the siodding IC covers were always smack bang in the way. Of course, by thet time, the housebuilder and groundworker were long gone!

Classic example....

...at least it's only a 2' waney lap and a base panel which can be lifted out quite easily if access is needed, but still, what a knobbish idea in the first place!
never mind the manhole that got be a contender for driveway of the year!!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:14 pm
by flowjoe
You are spot on Tony Mc, and now we have the scurge of bloody decking to contend with as well.

Heres how i spent my morning

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:39 pm
by mickg
yeah I thought it was as I have similar photos but from the right hard side of the display, the turf looked like they had found it rolled up at the side of a ditch

it won a bronze and I asked on landscape juice what does it take to get a bronze award at these shows and got told "just by turning up you will get a bronze" suppose we should say well done eh

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:15 pm
by London Stone Paving
Its the taking part that counts Mick. Were all winners ???

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:30 pm
by Tony McC
mickg wrote:what does it take to get a bronze award at these shows and got told "just by turning up you will get a bronze"
I thought it was silver for turning up?

Bronze for applying, silver for turning-up, silver-gilt for shoving in some plants the right way up, and Gold if your name's Chris Beardshaw (luvverley fellah and v. popular with the distaff members of the RHS).

I have a whole portfolio of paving monstrosities at RHS shows. At Tatton and Malvern you sort of have to make allowances, but I've seen gold-medal gardens at Chelsea with surface ponding, gaping joints, lips between flagstones, backfall, mortar staining and severe rocking, but the designer had sucked-up to the Rt Hon. Quentin Dubbel-Barwell or some other ponce, and had used that year's mega-trendy rare grass from the veldt, so the paving doesn't matter.

I keep saying it but they don't seem to listen: a garden without hard-landscaping is just a small field.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:44 pm
by Tony McC
And to make the point, here we have a Silver-Gilt Winner from Chelsea.....

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...real Silver Medal Quality flag-laying there, I think you'll agree, but does it match-up to the indescribable exposed aggregate concrete work and step on this garden from the very same year....?

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:25 pm
by GB_Groundworks

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:40 pm
by local patios and driveway
Tony McC wrote:And to make the point, here we have a Silver-Gilt Winner from Chelsea.....

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...real Silver Medal Quality flag-laying there, I think you'll agree, but does it match-up to the indescribable exposed aggregate concrete work and step on this garden from the very same year....?

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Wowser! Would they describe that as rustic with a straight face or a knowing smirk?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:13 am
by Tony McC
When it comes to trays and MH covers, I reckon the people responsible fall into one of two camps: there are the incompetent, and then there are the wilful.

Some of the lads that have worked for me over the years would put a cover back on and never realise that it doesn't match the pattern or the alignment, but a good number of them would *deliberately* put it back on askew, just for the sheer devilment of it.

But explain this one......??

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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:28 am
by higgness
That's where i left it.
Been looking for it for ages.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:39 pm
by GB_Groundworks
a little bit of me likes the devilmeant hehe

thats obvious future proofing......