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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:38 am
by Tony McC
I don't know enough about the inner working of the software to identify the problem, and I just don't have the time to track it down or to learn the code.

At the mo', I'm working on the principle that, if I do have any time for work on the Brew Cabin, it is better spent on the new version rather than in applying puncture repair patches to the existing.

I have a 'conference call' early next week about the next step in the site upgrade, which would include the New Brew Cabin. That's me with lots of ideas but no money, some clever IT/Web manager who knows how to do what I want to do, but expects a generous recompense, and some Indian software house which specialises in a CMS by the name of Umbraco. You now know as much as me: does your brane ake too?

Any ideas on how to raise funds for all this would be more than welcome....and no: I don't want to sell one of me kidneys!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:45 am
by henpecked
rab1 wrote:No boss, only sent in circles from the page that says ask an expert to the page for joining the forum....?.

only moved into my new house on saturday and set up the computer and logged on without an issue.
You have a new IP if the router was a new one, might have something to do with it?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:29 pm
by rab1
Had no trouble at all logging in on my mums pc until the site was updated (or whatever type of voodoo Ian carried out) but as soon as i tried on my own pc all was ok... ???

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:20 pm
by Kuts
Noticed dan (dngroundworks) hasn't posted for a while. Maybe he's having trouble too.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:47 am
by enigmaenigma
The lack of access could be related to the server change over and new IP address that was mentioned earlier in the thread by Ian.

Think of the internet as very complicated telephone technology:


Imagine you are in an office and instead of remembering that Bill is on extension 123456 we simply press the button marked Bill on the desk phone…or instead of having to remember that Ben’s mobile number is 987654321 we simply select Ben from the contacts list of the works mobile.

If you think of the changes Ian made as being the same as Bill & Ben getting new telephone numbers…only most people are unaware they have had new phone numbers, as Ian has sneaked into the office after shutdown and updated the numbers behind their names.

So, and as far as anyone is concerned, and as they know no different, they simply select Bill or Ben from the contacts list and voila Bill & Ben’s new phone numbers ring.


It sounds simple, doesn’t it…well it would be if there was only a few mobile phones and office phones to reprogram with Bill & Ben’s new phone numbers. But alas, Bill & Ben work for Mega Big Corp and they have thousands of office phones that need setting up with the new number, and just as many staff mobile phones as well…its going to take a few nights or even a week of sneaking around to update them all, and any that haven’t been updated will get a dead line as they will try and contact Bill & Ben’s dead phone numbers.


In essence that’s what is happening / happened by the change of number behind the Brew Cabin, and it is taking time to get rolled out across the internet. Just like the contacts list on a mobile phone, your internet service provider has its own way of doing that…via DNS (Domain Name Servers) And just like the funny office example above, it can take a bit of time before each one of these DNS servers is updated with the new number of 37.188.126.213

This means, and depending who your ISP is and how quickly they update their DNS records, you could type Brew Cabin into Google or use a bookmark / existing link and hit an non updated DNS server…end result the dead phone line from above, or in regards the internet not found.


There are other issues that could impact upon this, and that are in your control, such as your computer holding onto the old DNS info in its cache…trying to be helpful by keeping a local record of where it reckons this website is located, but as a result of the change, that’s now outdated.

You could try and run something like Crap cleaner to clear out the cache…although be sure you have any online passwords handy, as it will remove all your active logins etc.

In addition to that, and probably more important, you can simply flush the dns cache in your computer


Start > run > CMD…and in the command prompt window type ipconfig /flushdns and press enter / return

Or for later windows

Simply type CMD in the search box of the taskbar and then follow the above


There are other options, such as adding an entry into the HOSTS file, by manually adding the following…think of it as adding the contacts list locally, so your computer ignores what IP ( think phone number as per example above) the DNS has and uses the one you state instead

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37.188.126.213 http://www.pavingexpert.com

And in regards routers, you could look at using something like open DNS or another third party DNS server service…ditto the above, but instead of the computer, the router using / directing you to a different contact list than the one your ISP provides.


However, the latter ideas about HOSTS files and different DNS servers are probably overkill. Because usually, and in the fullness of time, the changes filter through to the various DNS servers that ISP's use and they all update the IP number they have associated with a specific website.[/color]

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:15 am
by cookiewales
opps over the top of my head :p

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:06 am
by Dave_L
FWIW I had a similar problem with another website - one PC couldn't log in to the forum etc - and it turned out to be a HOSTS file erroneous entry. All fixed in 2mins.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:58 pm
by rab1
i`m with you cookie, its all voodoo.