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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:07 pm
by Kuts
Dave_L wrote:Kuts wrote:Transit connect through the week:rock:
My rule of thumb is don't turn up to a job with a better car than the client.
Thats a really good rule of thumb Kuts!
My dad drilled that into me Dave, what would you think if you asked someone to come give you a price for the patio/extension or whatever an they turned up in a supercharge range rover sport?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:02 pm
by GB_Groundworks
Kuts wrote:Dave_L wrote:Kuts wrote:Transit connect through the week:rock:
My rule of thumb is don't turn up to a job with a better car than the client.
Thats a really good rule of thumb Kuts!
My dad drilled that into me Dave, what would you think if you asked someone to come give you a price for the patio/extension or whatever an they turned up in a supercharge range rover sport?
depends what area you are in, some might think this guy is long time estalished does lots of work and is a success, in the posh areas of cheshire we work its not really a problem as they've all got bentleys or ferraris haha
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:24 pm
by cookiewales
Have to say it's more how you present yourself ie I am not a salesman I do the work sign written truck or van or car is best magnectic signs for car dan l200 have better write ups than naveras . Why did you buy one when you have a link up to Toyota ps don't run before you can walk your only young and learning when I was 24 still had a £50 pound runabout plus two kids lol
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:47 pm
by DNgroundworks
Hi Cookie, my opinion of L200's probably stems from the horror stories i hear day in day out from my old man, they have just taken a delivery of 50 L200's and everyone of them needs a part in the gear box replacing - theres always 20 or so lined up on what they call "death row"!
I went with the Nissan as they didnt have anything at mitsubishi that i wanted at the time! Big mistake, cant sell the bloody navara as there is still some HP onit!
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:58 pm
by Dave_L
Cookie - I agree, it is all about presentation and job knowledge.
In fact, a recent (and I mean within the last week) comment from a follow-up email to a potential customer reads as such....
"Thank you - yes, I have your quotation thank you. I do admit that your approach is much more business-like than others we have had - snag is that yours appears to be on the costly side, but when I go back to other parties to include the missing items that you costed, the gap may narrow."
I rest my case.
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:45 am
by Carberry
Dave_L wrote:Cookie - I agree, it is all about presentation and job knowledge.
In fact, a recent (and I mean within the last week) comment from a follow-up email to a potential customer reads as such....
"Thank you - yes, I have your quotation thank you. I do admit that your approach is much more business-like than others we have had - snag is that yours appears to be on the costly side, but when I go back to other parties to include the missing items that you costed, the gap may narrow."
I rest my case.
I get that all the time, followed by the inevitable I really want you to do the work because you seem to know what you're talking about but can you drop your price?
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:48 am
by parishpaver
Carberry wrote:Dave_L wrote:Cookie - I agree, it is all about presentation and job knowledge.
In fact, a recent (and I mean within the last week) comment from a follow-up email to a potential customer reads as such....
"Thank you - yes, I have your quotation thank you. I do admit that your approach is much more business-like than others we have had - snag is that yours appears to be on the costly side, but when I go back to other parties to include the missing items that you costed, the gap may narrow."
I rest my case.
I get that all the time, followed by the inevitable I really want you to do the work because you seem to know what you're talking about but can you drop your price?
Every time I get that response from a customer I ask if I can see the other quotations, to check that we are all qiuoting on the same job.
You'd be amazed (or not) at the number of times this "cheaper" quote has been thrown in the bin.
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:19 am
by lutonlagerlout
i hear ye carbery
I wont fall for that anymore,a fair price is a fair price
cheers LLL 
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:50 pm
by Carberry
parishpaver wrote:Carberry wrote:Dave_L wrote:Cookie - I agree, it is all about presentation and job knowledge.
In fact, a recent (and I mean within the last week) comment from a follow-up email to a potential customer reads as such....
"Thank you - yes, I have your quotation thank you. I do admit that your approach is much more business-like than others we have had - snag is that yours appears to be on the costly side, but when I go back to other parties to include the missing items that you costed, the gap may narrow."
I rest my case.
I get that all the time, followed by the inevitable I really want you to do the work because you seem to know what you're talking about but can you drop your price?
Every time I get that response from a customer I ask if I can see the other quotations, to check that we are all qiuoting on the same job.
You'd be amazed (or not) at the number of times this "cheaper" quote has been thrown in the bin.
Or the number of cheaper quotes that haven't included a sub base or something equally ridiculous. When I first started up I made the mistake of trying to compete on price, it just isn't possible if you're doing a proper job. Now I tell them my price, not up for negotiation unless they want to give me more money (believe it or not I have had 2 customers do that, 1 was landscaping and she gave me £500 extra, 1 is a gas customer who keeps on putting his price up every time he phones despite my protestations).
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:47 pm
by Injured
57 plate Transit lwb medium roof 350 for work bought just over 18 months back best thing I ever did and for us all to travel round in as msh says you cant beat a Discovery. Mine is a trusty 95 300tdi about to go throught he 200000 miles barrier. What other car can you get a full exhaust for £50 :p
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:03 pm
by Ted
L200s vary. They still make the old shape in Brazil which is a good 4x4. The newer shape - which is quite curvy and less box-shape - is no good. I don't know where they make this new shape but these ones do not last.
Although hard to find in the UK, the Toyota Landcruiser 70 series pickup is great although it does cost in the region of US$50,000 new. 1.5 tonnes on the back, 4.2 TD or 4.5 petrol, and great for towing. It is not available as a crewcab but does have three seats in the front It looks rugged and different so it should impress the ladies.
