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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:55 pm
by GB_Groundworks
local patios and driveways wrote:Dan, why the odd levels and the fencer needs shooting. Looks crap to me. :(
local if you are going to call someone elses work crap at least put yourself up here for peer review, there arent many on here who posts warts and all photos of a job during and finished, most opt for carefully selected finished photos

so yeah call some one elses work crap but at least lets get more ppl posting their jobs up and we can all wade in....

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:32 pm
by local patios and driveway
Giles. I put a job up and loads of regulars (at that time) knocked the crap out of me. One knob end bitched about a cup on a window sill. It was old boys putting the new lad in his place. Pne thing that sticks in my mind was "this is paving expert, if its not the best we will let you know" that hurt me but its true. Im keeping up tradition.

Plus too many guys got tongues up each others arseholes. Not me. I tell it like it is

Im sure dan is a great guy but the job is rubbish. :rock:

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
constructive criticism is the key thing
we dont want to just start slating people for no reason
dans bitmac drive isnt rubbish by any means
the fence looks a bit odd and the rest is a bitmac overlay
I welcome constructive criticism thats why i am not afraid to post warts and all photos
its how we learn
i never knew about sbr till i came on here :;):
come on chelski
LLL

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:41 pm
by dig dug dan
Im sure dan is a great guy but the job is rubbish.


thanks for the kind words, but customer is over the moon, and has sent me a lovely letter today to that effect.
At the end of the day, nothing i have done has been bodged, its all been done to her satisfaaction and requests, top tarmac company has done me proud.
Whilst i appreciate the fence may not be to everyones "levels", it has been installed correctly using pressure treated timber, morticed posts and planed all round pales.
I fail to see how that can be wrong? individual tastes have to be caterered for, but its not right to "shoot the fencer" in this instance.
all of the gripes about my post have come about because the customer has chosen how she wants her drive done, and how much she wanted to spend, not because of any quality of workmanship

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:44 pm
by mickg
One knob end bitched about a cup on a window sill

YAWN

funny how people are brave sat behind a PC screen 250 miles away

I bet you would not say them words to my face

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:45 pm
by GB_Groundworks
ok so post some of your work up, i have on going battles with sean :) and some of my finishing work isnt the best but i still stick in up here warts and all.

opinions are like arseholes everyones got one haha

re dans drive, my surfacing lads would have had me cut a threshold out the pavement or the concrete so they could work to a square edge as that overlay edge is going to fail, dans done plenty of finger pointing at me for using through bolts on gates (its in the bs on fencing to do it that way) but thats his opinion, i just choose to ignore him as i know better ;) but he does cut grass haha (sorry nicking tony's running joke) .:)

flip we cant all be experts from day 1 and its a bigger man that takes it on the chin and says shit ive learnt somethign there, thanks guys i'll take that on and use it on my next job.

and yeah all being hairy arsed builders types we arent maybe phrasing it right but if you take it positively then can be beneficial

i remember that dog of an old mixer on metal wheels haha




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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:47 pm
by local patios and driveway
Cmon tony, no string line used on the pavoir edges. Could have cut out the first 400mm of concrete and kept the levels right. Could have infilled the center to lose the steep fall. Despite the clients thoughts on fencing surely when you tell them a straight top will leave an unsightly gap below its a no brainer, what client would argue with simple logic?

Im not afraid of critism, i will post my current arse ache job next week on completion. 24 oak sleepers on end. 40m of sandstone, two circles and 100m of turf. There will be faults, i will take what i give out

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:50 pm
by local patios and driveway
Mick, i would say it to your face. Im scared of no one but my mum. (more of a man than i will ever be) didnt realise it was you. Unfair comment that day.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:50 pm
by local patios and driveway
Giles i have posted work, will update last one with recent pics for you, look at new posts in 20 mins

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:53 pm
by dig dug dan
Cmon tony, no string line used on the pavoir edges


how can you tell tony didn't use a sting line? they look ok to me ???

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:54 pm
by dig dug dan
dans done plenty of finger pointing at me for using through bolts on gates (its in the bs on fencing to do it that way) but thats his opinion, i just choose to ignore him as i know better ;) but he does cut grass haha (sorry nicking tony's running joke) .:)


:D :D

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:55 pm
by GB_Groundworks
its not just you local, sorry dont know your name i want more lads posting pics up etc, ergo more traffic and hopefully more members

lets try to keep things civil i know thats hard in our game weve all seen fist fights on sites etc

but try and be constructive i.e

that patio is flipping wank, youve got loads of + joints and youve jointed it with dog shit mixed with sweetcorn

might sound better as

if you consult this page (link to main page) you'll see that the bs recommends no + joints and id spend 5 mins readign the page on jointing as i think your jointing medium might not be upto the task....

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:03 pm
by local patios and driveway
dig dug dan wrote:
Cmon tony, no string line used on the pavoir edges


how can you tell tony didn't use a sting line? they look ok to me ???
No dan, your edges

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:04 pm
by local patios and driveway
Giles my name is dan weston. Im probably too harsh i admit, but i am used to speaking my mind. I do it with my guys at work, but im firm but fair

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:09 pm
by DNgroundworks
Im guilty of not posting many photos, mainly because i find it a faff tbh, i shall endevour to do put some more up, i also dont criticise anyones work regardless of what i think of it because i see myself lacking experience to comment.

Picture here of the drain behind the oak sleeper retainer we are 1/4 way through....why would the engineers specify 150mm of stone under all land drainage? Doesnt make sense to me?

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