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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:47 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I spotted the fence and realised immediately what had happened
like me dan you are probably too soft with customers wishes
in hindsight a dog leg in the fence would probably have looked better following the drive line
but hindsight is a great thing
customer is always right in my book
what about SUDS as an alteration this would require SUDS under the 4 year old regulation?
cheers LLL 
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:51 am
by Dave_L
But it was only a 4.98m2 driveway extension!
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:53 am
by Dave_L
Not seen this time on a Saturday for a long while, early bird cathes the worm, lets go digging I'll keep that ice cold beer in my mind all day long, will make it a little more bearable!!
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:43 am
by mickg
is it my eyes or is there a step up to the new driveway from the pavement ?
suds applies to all driveways in England from October 1st 2008
These new planning rules also apply to where existing hard standing are being replaced and apply to hard surfaces exceeding 5 square metres in area
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:47 am
by lutonlagerlout
welcome to middle age dave :;):
6 hours is my maximum kip
so if i go to sleep at 10 i am up at 4 etc etc ad nauseum
quote "What if I'm only having my existing drive re-paved?
All paving and surfacing, whether it's new work, replacement, or extension, is subject to the new legislation, so even if you're only replacing your existing flags with a bit of block paving, the work will have to be installed in accordance with the new regulations. " unquote
I am guessing it all falls down the side path to a gully anyway
the soakaway on that drive by the time i factored in
4 crates
1 skip (near enough)
1 tonne 10 mm shingle
20m2 of terram
digger
banksman
4 channels
pea trap
3 m pipe
393 steel mesh
.5 of concrete to cap it
cost the guts of a grand
its a hard sell telling folk that summat they dont want is going to cost them a grand +vat
according to the regs you could put the drains in and just have them draining to a bucket of shingle
"suitable soakaway"
wtf does that mean?
our BCO s are looking for 1M3 for every 30m2 of roof tiles
:O
all the best
LLL
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:33 am
by seanandruby
won't that edge start breaking away over time? quick plant something under the fence
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:51 am
by lutonlagerlout
it still looks 10 times better than it did
which is the most important thing
LLL
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:20 am
by GB_Groundworks
personally if it were me id have overlaid it with a wearing course of 5 carrot diamonds for better life expectancy
come on ppl weve all been there and client wants it tarted up and looking better, yeah you can give them a quote for 3k to rip it up and relay it or as most ppl vote with their wallet do what they want and wipe its arse.
maybe cutting out and laying the block across the front might have helped with that lip but hindsight is a wonderful thing
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:02 am
by Carberry
GB_Groundworks wrote:personally if it were me id have overlaid it with a wearing course of 5 carrot diamonds for better life expectancy
come on ppl weve all been there and client wants it tarted up and looking better, yeah you can give them a quote for 3k to rip it up and relay it or as most ppl vote with their wallet do what they want and wipe its arse.
maybe cutting out and laying the block across the front might have helped with that lip but hindsight is a wonderful thing
Most gardens I do I think look shi*e :laugh:
The one I hate the most is completely slabbing over a garden with grey 2x2s. Couple of years ago I had to do that about 15 times.
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:28 pm
by DNgroundworks
Nearly all the smaller jobs i do are compromises, your average joe just doesnt have the budget to spend on a flash new driveway...my commercial customers on the other hand dont seem to have a budget :p
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:06 pm
by local patios and driveway
You have to be careful what you put your name to locally. The competition see you working there then see the completed work... Its going to get mentioned along with your company everytime. Let pikeys do the cheap nasty work.
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:08 pm
by dig dug dan
is it my eyes or is there a step up to the new driveway from the pavement ?
suds applies to all driveways in England from October 1st 2008
These new planning rules also apply to where existing hard standing are being replaced and apply to hard surfaces exceeding 5 square metres in area
yes there is a 30mm ramp. this is because the existing concrete is flush with the pavement, so without ripping up the whole drive (my preffered choice)the only option was to ramp it. The tarmac contractors have sealed the edge.
As for suds, the council round here are useless on any kind of action. one of my neighbours removed his 20sq of tarmac, replaced it with blocks, and someone dobbed him in. They made him put a drainage channel in, but told him not to worry about a soakaway, as long is it looks like a drain.
he then queried another property with similar size drive, this one sloping onto a main road, the council said they decided no action was needed.
And another drive, this one around 150sqm, he was told " its at the side of the house so doesn't count"
There is one driveway firm round here, who put a channel in, but never connect it to anything. Its only me round here that does it properly!
quick plant something under the fence
would have a job. the edges go right up to it!
Edited By dig dug dan on 1337443755
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:31 pm
by Dave_L
200+ metres of trenching for two power cables today; thought the ground would be a fairly easy dig- how wrong was I?? It was pretty much all made-up ground all the way up, bricks, crap, blocks and lumps of concrete and about 50mm of turf/topsoil/grass!!
You can see the stripped turf to the left of the trench, the crap to the right. Second bucket into the ground and we hooked out two water supplies - one 32mm and a 25mm! Good job I had my repair joiners handy. Bloody troughs etc....
All ready to do the runs across the road Monday, trim the entire driveway, stone up Tuesday through the road layer and 120t of binder on Wednesday.
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:47 pm
by seanandruby
Maybe you could hang some xmas icicles off it... :;): :laugh:
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:05 pm
by Dave_L
DNgroundworks wrote:Nearly all the smaller jobs i do are compromises, your average joe just doesnt have the budget to spend on a flash new driveway...my commercial customers on the other hand dont seem to have a budget :p
Quite agree, sometimes we have to make the job fit the customers budget - not everyone has £10k+ to splash out on a fancy driveway etc.