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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:33 pm
by dig dug dan
my mates neighbour got some dodgy outfit in to put up a new back fence, instead of asking him(hes a landscaper)
Needless to say, that night , one of the gate posts got "disturbed!

wobble-wobble

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:43 pm
by msh paving
must have been a bad sudden gust of local gale force wind in a very local area :p

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:35 pm
by GB_Groundworks
haha tempting but i'll leave them to it, they are a big national company based down sarth so will be lodging out and hiring in gear. they do all work for all the olympic riders and sponsor them and run full page adverts in horse and hound so its hard to compete, shes been swept up it their sales pitch.

they haven't figured out only certain makes of wagon will get under the bridge and turn rd at the top of the lane, so they'll have some surprises in store for them. i'll rock up in my tractor and dump trailer and hire myself to them to cart all the stuff the mile up the hill from the railway bridge haha.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:57 pm
by Injured
or you could even "breakdown" in said tractor so they are stuck for a while :p

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:01 pm
by GB_Groundworks
laid 20 tons of base today and was 4 tons short i reckon, off to the batching plant in the morning.

worked the area out as would with concrete and got it to 11m3, rang cemex and lady said she couldn't do it off m3 so had to give her dimensions and she got it at 22tons.

Dave, how do you work out your quantities? and meant to ask you whats the split on your scania as well. how much on the trailer and how much in the dump bit.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:23 am
by Dave_L
Aslong as your prepared stone levels are accurate (any deviation will obviously swallow up that expensive coated material....)

As a very rough guide.....

Road Base (28/32) 80 thick - 6m2/t
Road Base (28/32) 100 thick - 4.5m2/t
20mm Dense Binder 50 thick - 9m2/t
6mm SC 20mm thick - 16m2/t
6mm SC 25mm thick - 14m2/t
10mm SMA 40 thick - 11m2/t

Don't forget to take into account any regulating you'll have to lay to shape the area up.

Experience and guesswork do come into play quite a bit when ordering........

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:25 am
by Dave_L
Wagon Giles?

Trailer with paver and Bomag roller grosses at 25700kg

Wagon on it's own is 12750kg

Gives us a payload of around 13t for the wagon on it's own - which is ideal for us if we need to take our digger to jobs with the paver etc.

But on-site ;) I reckon we could fit a 20t load into it quite easily.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:13 am
by Dave_L
Giles! I'be just found the spread rate info on the main site!

Coverage Rates
Coverage rates are variable according to the thickness of each layer. Bitmac and asphalt are sold by weight and the standard coverage rates we work with are...

* 25mm of 6mm dense wearing course - 15-19 m² per tonne
* 40mm of 10mm dense wearing course - 10-12 m² per tonne

* 50mm of 20mm open base course - 9-12 m² per tonne
* 50mm of 20mm dense base course - 8-10 m² per tonne
* 65mm of 28mm open base course - 7½-10 m² per tonne
* 65mm of 28mm dense base course - 6-7½ m² per tonne

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:51 pm
by Dave_L
This tonnage calculator might be of some help to others. I've found it fairly accurate. But as I say, it all depends upon the accuracy of the prepared sub base........



Edited By Dave_L on 1232830337

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:28 pm
by GB_Groundworks
thanks for that dave bookmarked and i'll print that to keep with me for reference

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:15 pm
by ambient
no work after next week phones not rung for a job since new year hope it picks up soon :(

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:15 pm
by dig dug dan
had a call last night. Customer has three quotes already. Wants me to quote "as i am local". 53 6' panels, 4" timber posts,gravel boards, post caps. remove old fence, hand dig.
gave her a rough price of around 4k all in. She reckons i am way out and can get the whole job done for £2300. two guys have quoted this price.
Materials alone (although not the cheap wickes panels) are £2000, thats without getting rid of the old fencing!!
i can't compete with that

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:27 pm
by msh paving
best i can do is £4200+vat,but i always use concrete slotted posts ans gravel boards,using close board panels made at local timber yard :D

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:35 pm
by Injured
I hadnt had a call this year untill this week when I have had 3 calls so fingers crossed that more will follow.:)

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:41 pm
by dig dug dan
msh paving wrote:best i can do is £4200+vat,but i always use concrete slotted posts ans gravel boards,using close board panels made at local timber yard :D
lady stated that she DID NOT want concrete posts.
strange