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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:43 am
by parishpaver
I thought bulking only applied to volume, not weight, Giles?
2 tons is 2 tons surely?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:47 am
by Carberry
parishpaver wrote:I thought bulking only applied to volume, not weight, Giles?
2 tons is 2 tons surely?
Which is heavier, 2 tonne of feathers or 2 tonne of iron?
Catches eejits out all the time :laugh:
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:37 pm
by seanandruby
giles those skips are for a crane, they weigh a lot and are awkward to tip, you need plenty of room. I wold advise against using a 360 as a crane, apart from light lifting. You can get a round rollover skip but again not for a 360 to lift. You can get a small crane with stabilizers that lift a couple of hundred weight, then there is a merlo ( 360 fork lift with lifting arm attatchment. Maybe a conveyor belt?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:18 pm
by DNgroundworks
LLL it sounds like Giles has alot of muck to shift, manual handling will take for ever, and with family living in the house, especially a house like that i doubt they will want blokes with buckets coming through all day, not to mention ply wood everywhere.
Id say get the machine in, and use the skip with the little digger, and just take it slow and steady, just my 2p worth.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:19 pm
by DNgroundworks
Or how about unic mini cranes - http://www.unic-cranes.co.uk/?gclid=CIiA3K6Lr6wCFZJc4QodRxM0Hg
Had one on demo once - when i had money, thought of buying one, was pretty good.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:24 pm
by GB_Groundworks
sean they do a 700 litre one = 1.2 tons the 16 ton will lift that all day long, will lift a full pack of bricks and grab at full extension.
to steep for a conveyour, and as dan says family arent going to want us and i dont want to be tramping through the house, think its going to be the bucket skip
those cranes look ace but why when youve got an 80k digger sat around buy something else hehe, i know not normally my logic lol
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:24 pm
by GB_Groundworks
parishpaver wrote:I thought bulking only applied to volume, not weight, Giles?
2 tons is 2 tons surely?
not when you are pricing by the ton 
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:12 pm
by Mikey_C
what about welding four hooks or bars on a bucket, so you can pick up filled ton/dumpy bags. 4 lantern irons holds the bag open while you fill it with the small digger. its bagged up ready to chuck on flat bed. i've had dumpy bags delivered by grab trucks with these on before.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:03 pm
by henpecked
Mikey_C wrote:what about welding four hooks or bars on a bucket, so you can pick up filled ton/dumpy bags. 4 lantern irons holds the bag open while you fill it with the small digger. its bagged up ready to chuck on flat bed. i've had dumpy bags delivered by grab trucks with these on before.
Sound like the solution ,or you can use the 4 brothers to just hook straight onto the bag, short 1/2 metre chain would do it. Nice and tidy with one one handling . Rather than load/tip/load again 
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:36 pm
by lutonlagerlout
most of Britains canals and railways were built by navvies with picks shovels and barrows
once you get a lift of brickwork up the scaffold effectively becomes flat
I still feel even with hand balling that every man will excavate and remove 1m3 of soil per day minimum
just my tuppenceworth
LLL 
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:40 am
by seanandruby
.......That's what i was on about DN, we use them when doing headings for drainage underground.
You could always overkill and go for a diaphragm wall excavation grab, now there is a tool, amazing. :laugh: :;):
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:05 pm
by henpecked
seanandruby wrote:.......That's what i was on about DN, we use them when doing headings for drainage underground.
You could always overkill and go for a diaphragm wall excavation grab, now there is a tool, amazing. :laugh: :;):
Like THIS?
Interesting as you negate the need for shuttering etc
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:29 am
by seanandruby
It's a great system, used to be popular years ago and is making a big come back. You can do the whole building top down, doing each floor as you reach it. The reinforcing is rebated where the floors will be and lowered in, as you dig down, you just strike the box out and you have a rebate all ready in situ. We're doing 3 lower floors on this one.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:22 pm
by haggistini
Seen this on telly the other night for some dock somewhere hot....? they used some stabiliser chemical in pure sand then dropped the rebar cage in 1 and poured concrete in awesome engineering!
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:07 am
by seanandruby
........bentanite