How to drain a new patio? - On clay... :(

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Tony McC wrote:Might be worth puncturing through that 'stone' layer just to check what's beneath.

However, I'd hazard a guess that you would be OK to install a shallow-ish land drain

May well find a tunnel to the woods under the stone :) - would explain how well it appears to drain.

Will get the spade out at the next opportunity and have another go at it.

How deep would a shallow-ish land drain actually go? I'm beginning to think I might as well hire a turf cutter and get rid of the entire existing lawn -about 30sq m (I maybe put in in the front garden to bring up a few low spots) as it'll get trashed by the plant I need to level the ground, as well as having a land drain installed under it.

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Post: # 97060Post Tony McC

Usual recommendation for minimum depth is 300mm, but 450mm is better.
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Nice one. thanks. Will probably dig the trenches for that with the excavator I hire next week.

Is there a particular pattern/layout that would be most effective? I'm thinking of just a simple grid - 2 runs parallel to each patio edge, and then a quantity of pipes crossing the lawn to distribute & disperse - is there a recommended spacing or density for distribution pipes?

oh, and anyone want my lawn? :D

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Post: # 97065Post Tony McC

The best layout depends on the site itself. Aim for 2.4 - 3.0 metres between each run.
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Garden is only 8m wide, so that would suggest 3 runs

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Post: # 97143Post Tony McC

??? Why 3? One run 2.5m in from edge and same on other side leaves 3m between the two runs
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That's pretty much the same conclusion I reached once I'd drawn it out :)

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Dug the hole a bit deeper.
Under the stones is a bit more yellow clay, and under that is blue clay. The blue stuff is fairly flaky looking, which might amount to its drainage properties. I fear I may be verging into the territory of geologist and departing the realms of hard landscaping, but I can't help be fascinated by what's underneath us all... sorry.

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