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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:01 am
by rks
yes i was thinking of mushroom thanks for that info .
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:06 am
by rks
may i ask what sealer you use if you do use it as where i purchased these paving slabs they had used this :http://miles-stone.co.uk/stone-sealers/2816339 the patio sealer and it didnt make the paving glossy at all was very subtle.And i wish to seal them thanks can i seal before grout or after ?
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:12 am
by rks
sorry forgot , one more thing waht kind of coverage do you get with easy joint ? my gaps are approx 10-12 mm and depth 25mm approx thanks have approx 18m2 paving
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:37 pm
by Azpects
rks wrote:sorry forgot , one more thing waht kind of coverage do you get with easy joint ? my gaps are approx 10-12 mm and depth 25mm approx thanks have approx 18m2 paving
Hi RKS,
We have a calculator on our website
http://www.azpects.co.uk/easy-joint-calculator.aspx
Would you seal before or after jointing? That is totally up to you
If you seal before jointing and we'd certainly recommend this with sensitive stone, allow two to three days before jointing it, you want to make sure the sealer is fully dry before EASYJoint application
If you are sealing after jointing, we would recommend sealing it a month after jointing allowing the EASYJoint to fully cure.
In regards to a non-glossy sealer, we ourselves make an invisible sealer called EASYSeal SSP
http://www.azpects.co.uk/products/easyseal-ssp.aspx
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:39 am
by Azpects
scotty78 wrote:Azpects you guys should really get a few gallery pictures showing the different colour mortar's against different paving. I have buff multi and really struggled to find decent pictures showing your stone grey jointing material against a similar colour. Now I am laying my paving it is much more buff than it looked in the crates so may take it back to the merchant and swap for neutral. Guessing neutral is your best seller? or stick with the stone grey for a bit of contrast, hard choice lol
Op I would have liked to have used the gftk jointing material as it's regarded as one of the best but it was going to be more than double the price of the easy joint. From the research I done before spending my hard earned it appeared to me easy joint is one of the better one part products, I am only speaking from online research but can let you know in the next week or so. I figure it wont last as long as gftk stuff but I expect to get a good few years out it and by then hopefully the 2 part products are more reasonable. Definitely keep away from geo fix, my merchant tried to sell me it very cheap, after reading about all the problems I am glad I didn't bother.
This is a great suggestion Scotty and something we'd like to offer on our website in the future
We'd expect EASYJoint to hold it's own against all jointing compounds of it's type
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:02 am
by Azpects
Tony McC wrote:Azpects wrote:damning us with faint praise Tony
Not really. The (better quality) polymerics are fine as long as users understand they are not ideal on areas subject to vehicular traffic and that they are prone to coming loose when blasted with a high pressure jet. That's not saying they are, per se, bad products, just that they have limitations.
It's like saying Volkswagen have limitations: they can't do 200+ mph like a McLaren, and they don't have a cocktail bar like a Rolls Royce, but they're still a good car!
All products have their pluses and minuses, EASYJoint doesn't form a structural part of the driveway; it only serves as a joint filler.
As you say it can be used provided the surface material is adequately bedded into the base but the the EASYJoint will not withstand the twisting (or torque) forces from vehicles
It is not ideal but can be done
The car comparison is a good one, McLaren's can go damn fast but are far from practical as your day to day car
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:50 pm
by williams
I've used easy joint a couple of times now and really like it. I've been using gtfk vdw800 for nearly ten years and while I love it I don't love the customer complaining about the residue.
Gtfk is without doubt better but the residue is a problem, if you can get it to cover 100% then great as it weathers off the same, but if it's patchy at all it can cause customer questions.
Tried the new vdw850 and same thing, I was told no residue but there was, there was some footprints and obviously got questioned.
Easy joint just looked so perfect IMO, very very tidy.
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:54 am
by Azpects
williams wrote:I've used easy joint a couple of times now and really like it. I've been using gtfk vdw800 for nearly ten years and while I love it I don't love the customer complaining about the residue.
Gtfk is without doubt better but the residue is a problem, if you can get it to cover 100% then great as it weathers off the same, but if it's patchy at all it can cause customer questions.
Tried the new vdw850 and same thing, I was told no residue but there was, there was some footprints and obviously got questioned.
Easy joint just looked so perfect IMO, very very tidy.
Thanks for the kind praise Williams, EASYJoint sales have been up 80% this year so people clearly like it.
The only risks with EASYJoint occur if too strong a base mix is used and water can't drain away leaving the joints never to fully dry (EASYJoint cures on contact with air) or particularly sensitive stone prone to marking is used without enough water applied.
For sensitive stones we always recommend sealing before EASYJoint application, then waiting 2 to 3 days for the sealer to dry, this prevents the risk of oil residue left over which can absorb into the stone. Any oil stains or framing will weather away.
If you ever have any technical enquiries give us a call, our technical team are always happy to help