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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:56 pm
by lutonlagerlout
if you need to ask what sand you are in schtuck
will bodgit and scarper not come back and make it right?
if not name and shame
LLL
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:46 pm
by eyebrows
Well i'm sure a pro will find fault but here is what i spent this weekend doing. I need to lay 4 more slabs to finish the main patio then i have a small path to lay. But i've ran out of sand!
Since i took the pic it has dried and i have walked across all the joints bare foot and they all feel level 
At the end of the day i know its not perfect but i'm happy with it and i'm the one that has to live with it. Never laid a slab in my life before yesterday morning. Its got a fall of 1cm per meter. 4 1/2 inches below damp which i know some of you won't be happy about but the one i removed was level with damp and there was no issues.
Also whats your views on the joint compound pictured? I got it from work so i can take it back if there are any issues with it.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:01 pm
by Pablo
That'll do just grand mate but please don't use that cementone cr#p it's useless. 3:1 sand and cement or premixed easyjoint type stuff through a gun will give you a long lasting finish. Just one thing if the lawn slopes towards the paving or is slightly higher you may get puddling and if so you may need some kind of drainage. Looks great so far.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:17 pm
by eyebrows
I had a feeling i was gonna get a reply like that about cementone 
Any tips on which to get and where from?
The lawn will be graded away from the patio thats my next job. I have laid edgings along the front edge of the patio so it wont be disturbed when doing this and laid the slabs over them as you would if making a step.
Lucky i did all the ground work so planned ahead. Just didn't plan for someone to lay them wrong in the first place!!!
Refund offered and accepted not had it yet though!
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:20 pm
by lutonlagerlout
you did a great job there eyebrows
I would steer you towards epoxy mortar as sand cement can be a swine if you get it wrong
well done
LLL
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:35 pm
by eyebrows
Everything i have done including the ground works and laying the edgings has been from what i have read about and learned on The paving expert and The brew cabin. Priceless advice from people that just want to be helpfull.
A big thank you for the information.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:25 pm
by London Stone Paving
Nice job eyebrows. So the kiddies party will be going ahead?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:12 am
by mickg
very nice job eyebrows, well done
I would use Marshalls Weatherpoint 365 for jointing, it can be applied even if its raining and sets rock hard within a couple of days, you can either brush it in and don't strike it with a brick jointer or brush it in and spend a little bit of time striking every joint with a brick jointer to give smoother finish, personally I would strike it as its not a massive area
oh the down side is Marshalls Weatherpoint is available from the UK's largest chain of builders merchants called TRAVIS PERKINS 
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:28 am
by Carberry
mickg wrote:oh the down side is Marshalls Weatherpoint is available from the UK's largest chain of builders merchants called TRAVIS PERKINS
Last time I went in there they tried to charge me £18 for some acid :laugh:
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:44 pm
by dig dug dan
Last time I went in there they tried to charge me £18 for some acid
drugs are so expensive these days
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:28 pm
by Pablo
mickg wrote:very nice job eyebrows, well done
I would use Marshalls Weatherpoint 365 for jointing, it can be applied even if its raining and sets rock hard within a couple of days, you can either brush it in and don't strike it with a brick jointer or brush it in and spend a little bit of time striking every joint with a brick jointer to give smoother finish, personally I would strike it as its not a massive area
oh the down side is Marshalls Weatherpoint is available from the UK's largest chain of builders merchants called TRAVIS PERKINS
I'd be willing to change my mind but the one sandstone job I did with Marshalls 365 has failed after 4 years. It looks similar to geofix in the way it's gone and the manufacturers instructions were followed exactly.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:16 pm
by Carberry
Got two tubs of weatherpoint off marshall's rep to try, just trying to find time to test it. Told the rep I have no doubt that it works my only question is longevity.
digdug: £18 worth of acid would probably send me to the moon and back (going to try it for first time in a fortnight),
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:28 pm
by mickg
>>>>I'd be willing to change my mind but the one sandstone job I did with Marshalls 365 has failed after 4 years
Marshalls Weatherpoint 365 has only been available for the last 18 months ?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:22 pm
by msh paving
^^^^ i'm with you there mick 18months max,I have used it on 2 jobs no problems no come backs,can't compare it to geopoo.... MSH
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:50 pm
by Pablo
I stand corrected I've just googled it the stuff I used was a dry brush in powder that you wetted down once the joints were filled. I'm sure it was called weather point though it was from Marshalls and it was definately sh#t. That 365 has the same installation method as Rompox easy all those brush in's worry me nowadays but if this one works I'll give it a try in a few years time once it's seen a few winters and pressure washers.