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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:35 am
by Rich H
Jonah, a 10 tonne load of type 1 should cost you no more than £150+VAT if you phone around. £3-4 a square metre is not much to do a proper job.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:38 am
by Tony McC
Should I use sub-base?
Now I am more confused than ever. Tony says no, but useful if ground needs elevating – others say yes!
Tony doesn't say "no": Tony says "not always".
If you have a firm and stable sub-grade, with no settlement, no soft spots, no organic material, then there is no point in digging that out to accommodate a layer of crushed rock when the heaviest vehicle the paving will ever carry is a child's bike.
However, if the paving is to be trafficked by a car or anything bigger, then a sub-base is more-or-less always necessary (there are one or two exceptional exceptions), but patios and garden paths come down to being a judgement call.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:28 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Rich H wrote:Jonah, a 10 tonne load of type 1 should cost you no more than £150+VAT if you phone around. £3-4 a square metre is not much to do a proper job.
cant get it for that money round here rich
10 tonne delivered costs us £250 plus vat in luton
LLL 
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:58 pm
by Rich H
Blimey. Hanson (formerly Foster Yoeman) will do £14+VAT/tonne on a 16t load.
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:13 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Rich H wrote:Blimey. Hanson (formerly Foster Yoeman) will do £14+VAT/tonne on a 16t load.
thats 16 tonne rich not 10!
LLL ???
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:45 pm
by Rich H
Exactly. £14 if you take 16, £15 if you take 10.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:31 am
by Jonah
I lifted the council 3x2's down the side of the house. Seems they've been bedded on sharp sand, about 30mm. I got the trowel out and dug beneath it and hit builders sand, and lots of it.
Looks like I'm going to have to use a sub base for this section of paving at least. So I may aswell do the lot with a sub base.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:57 am
by BGHSE
Thanks everyone for their input on this.
Tony is of course correct when he says a sub-base is needed for a drive, the website makes than clear in the relevant section.
But I am looking at a garden patio which is intended for pedestrian traffic only, not even a childs tricycle. Though it will probably have a garden table and chairs.
Does LLL mention 100mm mot merely for costing purposes, or does he recommend I put 100mm sub-base?
Appreciate if anybody else has any thoughts whether I should use a sub-base on clay?
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:07 am
by Rich H
On clay? The short answer is yes.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:43 pm
by lutonlagerlout
chalk gravel sand or rock is good
clay is not
LLL
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:26 am
by matt h
clay is definately not good... have same down here, and the water table is high as well. slightest rain and the place is a quagmire.If you dig down a metre you,ll hit gravel here so at least there is something to compact to! Best of luck, and post some pics so we can see how you got on:)